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Re: evaluating web sites - .org vs. .com

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Jan Birney <[log in to unmask]>

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Jan Birney <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:35:19 -0400

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Sorry to Reply All, but I think this is probably a good question for the
group at large. I teach information literacy skills to middle schoolers and
they come to me with the same misconception about
"what-comes-after-the-dot." Almost to a person, they believe .org sites are
always reliable and .coms are not reliable. I have to re-teach them that
"what-comes-after-the-dot" is probably the least most important criteria
for Web site evaluation.

I have used the example of the Web site  www.martinlutherking.org  as a
glaring example of a site that is extremely biased and should never be used
for research. I explain that the most important criteria, or at least the
first criteria for determining  the value of a site is the credentials of
the person or organization that is responsible for the content of the site.
In the case of www.martinlutherking.org, the site is sponsored by
Stormfront, a White Supremacist organization.

I tell the kids that as a rule, .orgs exist to influence us to do, think,
or believe something. They aren't necessarily bad-- various charities,
religions, political parties, etc. are .orgs--and many do good work.
Political sites are certainly entitled to their opinions and they are
entitled to spread their views. The problem comes in when we're looking for
facts and non-biased information for research. The most reliable way to
evaluate Web sites is to learn about who is responsible for the information
on the page. And I certainly don't expect that 7th graders  know anything
about Stormfront, so I use checklists and have kids share all Web sites
they use with me so we can be sure the information they're gathering is
from trusted sites.

It's exhausting! But important! And I'm second-guessing myself all the time
because I want to be sure that kids use the best sources they can find. I'm
not sure how much penetrates their little brains, but I do keep hounding
them in hopes that some of what I say sticks.

Sorry this is so long, but the topic hits a nerve with me and I'm glad I'm
not the only one who grapples with this issue. Hope I've helped in some
small way.
J

Jan Birney, Library Media Specialist
Jockey Hollow Middle School
365 Fan Hill Rd.
Monroe, CT 06468
203-452-2905 Ext 6339
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From: School Library Media & Network Communications [[log in to unmask]]
on behalf of Dettman, Dave [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:47 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: evaluating web sites - .org vs. .com

I have seen this as well Paul. I think that in many cases library
instructors at the college level spend an inordinate amount of time on how
untrustworthy .com sites can be and really only mention .org sites in
passing. So, part of it might simply be a matter of emphasis. I like to
show an example of each and stress that it can be harder to detect bias on
a .org which makes them especially worth spending time on. I like to use
the Heritage Foundation and their stance on immigration. If you don't spend
the time looking at the "About" page (which I stress students do on every
website they are considering citing) a student might not uncover the fact
that this .org was created to "formulate and promote conservative public
policies." I also stress it is OK to use this information you just have to
let your reader know that you know what the slant is.

Regards,
Dave

David Dettman, M.A., M.L.I.S.
Assistant Professor & Access Services and Assessment Librarian
University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
900 Reserve Street
Stevens Point, WI 54481
(715) 346-4206 (Office)
(715)-571-1180 (Cell and Text)
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-----Original Message-----
From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:
[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of p b
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:12 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: evaluating web sites - .org vs. .com

I have been surveying freshman students on how they evaluate online
information. About one-third of the students have been telling me that .org
sites are more trustworthy than .com sites, or that .org is trustworthy and
.com is not. Does anyone know where this is coming from? I find the high
percentage fascinating.

Thanks,
Paul Bond
Library Instruction Coordinator
University of Pittsburgh-Johnstown
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Dettman, Dave <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> I have seen this as well Paul. I think that in many cases library
> instructors at the college level spend an inordinate amount of time on how
> untrustworthy .com sites can be and really only mention .org sites in
> passing. So, part of it might simply be a matter of emphasis. I like to
> show an example of each and stress that it can be harder to detect bias on
> a .org which makes them especially worth spending time on. I like to use
> the Heritage Foundation and their stance on immigration. If you don't spend
> the time looking at the "About" page (which I stress students do on every
> website they are considering citing) a student might not uncover the fact
> that this .org was created to "formulate and promote conservative public
> policies." I also stress it is OK to use this information you just have to
> let your reader know that you know what the slant is.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> David Dettman, M.A., M.L.I.S.
> Assistant Professor & Access Services and Assessment Librarian
> University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
> 900 Reserve Street
> Stevens Point, WI 54481
> (715) 346-4206 (Office)
> (715)-571-1180 (Cell and Text)
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of p b
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:12 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: evaluating web sites - .org vs. .com
>
> I have been surveying freshman students on how they evaluate online
> information. About one-third of the students have been telling me that .org
> sites are more trustworthy than .com sites, or that .org is trustworthy and
> .com is not. Does anyone know where this is coming from? I find the high
> percentage fascinating.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Bond
> Library Instruction Coordinator
> University of Pittsburgh-Johnstown
> [log in to unmask]
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Jan Birney, MLS, LMS
Jockey Hollow Middle School
365 Fan Hill Rd
Monroe, CT 06468
203-452-2905 Ext 6339
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