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> From: Robert Guerra <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: September 29, 2007 3:00:34 PM BDT
> To: At-Large writ small <[log in to unmask]>
> Cc: NA Discuss <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Results of the Voting for ALAC Nominating  
> Committee 2008 Appointments
>
> Danny:
>
> The candidate you proposed was indeed considered, but did not make  
> the short list. that was not a personal decision of mine, but of  
> the NA ALAC representatives.
>
> Informal consultations - due diligence you could call it - took  
> place to assess the candidates being proposed, and if they would be  
> well suited and able to strategically represent users from not only  
> Canada and the USA, but users "everywhere" on the nomcom.
>
> Your statement that no consultation was done with those on NA RALO,  
> is in fact wrong.  Consultations were done with key people active  
> on the NA list as well as those in ICANN. Consultations were done   
> done privately on a one -to-one basis.
>
> I will keep the sources confidential, - they can speak out if they  
> wish - but suffice it to say that your  candidate, well - got very  
> mixed reviews, in fact some quite negative. Those who got far more   
> favorable reviews -  ended up on the short list.
>
> As i've mentioned now several times, my person view is that the NA  
> Nomcom candidate that - was elected by a large majority of ALAC  
> members - will be able to well and strategically represent the  
> views from the ALAC on the nomcom. The person in is well known to  
> civil society working in ICANN as a person we can work with, and  
> who has integrity. We will be well served. He has another "hat" -  
> as do many of us as well. So i don't see that as an issue in the  
> least.
>
>
> Indeed this whole discussion reminds me on an  ongoing discussion  
> in Canada related to elections canada's stance on allowing veiled  
> women to vote .
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/09/10/elections-veils.html
>
> It's not for the administrator to settle the current societal  
> debate. If I were to do so, I would assume the role that does not  
> belong to me, and above all, usurp the role of Canada's elected  
> politicians."
>
> Currently, I do not believe criteria  exists as to who can or can  
> not be a candidate for ALAC to select as its nomcom  
> representatives. If you want that changed - please, by all means do  
> suggest that ALS's and ALAC change the rules.
>
> In summary - Hey, i didn't support your candidate. I have that  
> right. Due process was followed, and a good, honest and very  
> strategic candidate from Canada was duly elected.  Please, respect  
> the decision . If you feel the process could have been better -  
> please, be constructive and suggest changes so that we can improve  
> things going forward.
>
>
> In the meantime, decision has taken place.. let's move forward..  
> Let's work with Ross, and take up his offer to speak with him on a  
> teleconference. He's keen to hear from the NA RALO, and in fact  
> ALAC as a whole on how he can best represent us. As he shouldn't  
> hold him to a higher standard - let's also arrange consultations  
> with the other ALAC nomcom reps . After all if they are supposed to  
> be our representatives, let's make sure they stay in touch and  
> consult with us.
>
> regards
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> On 29-Sep-07, at 2:16 PM, Danny Younger wrote:
>> Robert,
>>
>> Bottom line:  You removed a duly nominated candidate
>> that was duly confirmed from the voting roster, a
>> candidate with seven years experience within ICANN
>> defending the public interest, a candidate that
>> properly submitted his credentials for consideration,
>> and the only confirmed candidate that hailed from the
>> United States... all without any consultation with
>> members of the NARALO discuss list, and without member
>> consent for such action.
>>
>> You also introduced a candidate from the supplier
>> community surreptitiously without any consultation
>> with the membership.  In my view, your actions
>> demonstrate that you are not fit for holding office.
>>
>> regards,
>> Danny
>>
>>
>> --- Robert Guerra <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been away for the last few days and am only now
>>> catching up on
>>> this list's email...
>>>
>>> It seems some questions have been raised as to the
>>> process by which
>>> the NA ALAC , and in fact ALAC as a whole selected
>>> the nomcom
>>> candidate from the NA region.
>>>
>>> First,let me describe the process -
>>>
>>> The NA ALAC reps held  two teleconferences where we
>>> discussed the
>>> Nomcom candidates. Beau, Alan and I spent
>>> considerable time
>>> discussing the i\, the candidates and additional
>>> persons we might
>>> want to consider
>>>
>>> The candidate pool came from names proposed on the
>>> NA list, as well
>>> as persons suggested by the NA Regional reps. The
>>> breakdown was thus
>>> - one person proposed from the NA list, and 5
>>> persons suggested from
>>> the ALAC reps. Of the 6 persons, one candidate was
>>> removed as they
>>> had been elected board liason. the rest were
>>> contacted to confirm
>>> that indeed they would be willing and able to serve
>>> the term. Three
>>> confirmed there were interested, willing and able to
>>> represent ALAC
>>> on nomcom. two top candidates were identified and a
>>> discussion took
>>> place to see if a consensus candidate could be
>>> chosen. This was not
>>> the case, as such the two were submitted to the ALAC
>>> for them to vote
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Key facts:
>>>
>>> - the two proposed candidates both were supported by
>>> more then one
>>> ALAC rep
>>> - The consensus view that developed was that a
>>> candidate should be
>>> well familiar with icann and/or able to learn about
>>> it's politics
>>> and issues, and ability to represent the user
>>> voice/view were key
>>> factors needed in a candidate.
>>>
>>>
>>> My personal choice was Ross, as i'm quite familiar
>>> with his work with
>>> the user community in Canada and his involvement in
>>> CIRA. It is his
>>> proven track record to be able to represent users on
>>> the CIRA board
>>> as well as his support for NCUC and ALAC view that
>>> led to me voting
>>> for him. In summary, I voted based on  a track
>>> record in engaging
>>> users and the user community (in canada) as well as
>>> a very good
>>> understand of ICANN, it's politics and nomcom.
>>>
>>> Using the recently approved voting rules adopted by
>>> the ALAC,
>>> candidates proposed from the regions where a
>>> consensus was not
>>> possible were considered by the ALAC. A one week
>>> open voting & period
>>> was opened  - where opinions were expressed by ALAC
>>> members on
>>> candidates, and voting took place.Voting closed a
>>> particular day,
>>> after which the results were announced.
>>>
>>> The existing icann bylaws state that ALAC should
>>> appoint candidates -
>>> and that was done. Though not specifically mentioned
>>> , consulation
>>> also tool place - and considerable time, and effort
>>> was taken to
>>> review candidates and elect one that fit the
>>> criteria developed.
>>>
>>> Ross, in my opinion - despite what some critics
>>> might say - has the
>>> knowledge and ability, integrity and ability  to
>>> represent ALAC and
>>> users interests well  on the nomcom. I believe that
>>> he will serve
>>> alac well  .
>>>
>>> Secondly, let me say that constant critiquing ALAC
>>> reps is not
>>> constructive at all. Personally, I have tried to
>>> bring values of
>>> consultation and dialogue between those in the NA
>>> ALS, ALAC members
>>> and other key constituencies such as NCUC, SSAC and
>>> many others . I
>>> see there is great value in  collaboration - one
>>> that can serve to
>>> bring a stronger voice to users and civil society
>>> inside the complex
>>> and very political structure that is ICANN.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In summary -  Key appointments and nominations need
>>> to be strategic
>>> and constructive. I believe that the two candidates
>>> proposed were
>>> good, and that the better qualified and most
>>> knowledgeable person who
>>> indeed will be able to serve all users from the NA
>>> region has been
>>> selected. Can we do things better in the future -
>>> indeed we can.
>>> let's learn from this experience and build a better
>>> process for the
>>> 08/09 nomcom selection process
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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