I know that Beau sent this to the NCUC list but I didn't see it there. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendler, Beau [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:38 AM
> To: Milton L Mueller; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: RE: [NCUC-DISCUSS] RAA
>
> Not sure I am allowed to post to this list but we'll give it a try,
> and if it doesn't work, perhaps Milton can forward. Yes, we are
> listening, in fact, after seeing Robin's earlier note about the RAA to
> Mary , I sent Robin the following note. Why don't I just open that
> note up to the group, since you asked, in all caps no less:
> ------------------------------
> Is there something we can do here to facilitate working together with
> the NCUC on this? The ALAC did a fair bit of work on the RAA
> amendments process (actually, mostly Danny Younger and I, about nine
> months ago). We put together a lot of resources and had some
> preliminary discussions with registrars as well. I think a joint
> NCUC/ALAC drafting team would carry some significant weight. In
> addition, there are a few people in ALAC (myself included, working for
> Consumer Reports) who have some experience creating consumer bills of rights and such.
> -------------------------------
>
> There's some brief background on our work here:
> https://st.icann.org/raa-policy/index.cgi?raa_working_group_documents
>
> And here:
> http://www.atlarge.icann.org/announcements/announcement-02sep08-en.htm
>
> What I am unsure of is next steps. ALAC, though not Danny, supported
> the most recent version of the RAA, with the specific wording that
> additional amendments could be added in the future as necessary. I'm
> not sure if Danny is up for working on this any more, but I will be happy to ask.
>
> Perhaps Bill and I and any others who are interested can simply form a
> drafting team and set up a joint workspace, start a mailing list and
> try to get maximum participation. We should be able to get ICANN staff
> to assist us in this effort.
>
> Beau Brendler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:NCUC-
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:35 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: !RE: [NCUC-DISCUSS] RAA
>
> Here's the short version of Bill's message, repeated for emphasis:
> YO! DANNY! BEAU! YOU LISTENING?????!!!!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > All of which is to say:
> > a) as a general matter, counselors really do need timely and
> > reasonably action-oriented community feedback if we are supposed to
> > be reflecting community sentiment in votes, and
> > b) in the particular case of the RAA, we will really need such
> > engagement if we're going to leverage the opportunity provided by
> > the charter commitment, rather than ending up with something anodyne
> > and meaningless.
>
> And especially:
>
> > I really hope Danny and others with concerns will raise these in as
> > concrete a manner possible so that whomever represents noncomm on
> > the drafting team can negotiate from a stronger position.
>
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