Excellent joke !

-Jorge

> On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Marc Perkel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to see Fadi interested in IG in light of NSA spying. I'm still predicting that world givernment is going to arise out of ICANN.
> 
>> On 10/9/2013 3:08 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>> Dear Avri, see for yourself -- watch the video with Fadi's interview
>> minutes after his meeting with the Presidenta:
>> 
>> http://blog.planalto.gov.br/brasil-vai-sediar-encontro-mundial-sobre-governanca-da-internet-em-2014/
>> 
>> [] fraterno
>> 
>> --c.a.
>> 
>>> On 10/09/2013 07:02 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Do I understand correctly: according to this the President of ICANN has just agreed with the need for external oversight of ICANN, and unnamed other organizations, involved in governance/management of the Internet, just as long as it is multistakeholder?
>>> 
>>> Wow!
>>> 
>>> avri
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9 Oct 2013, at 17:46, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> [sorry for possible duplicate posts]
>>>> 
>>>> Dear people
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the Google Translate English version (I did some editing) of the
>>>> official report on the meeting between President Rousseff and ICANN's
>>>> President and CEO Fadi Chehadé, which just happened.
>>>> 
>>>> The original version in Brazilian Portuguese is at the end.
>>>> 
>>>> fraternal regards
>>>> 
>>>> --c.a.
>>>> 
>>>> http://convergenciadigital.uol.com.br/cgi/cgilua.exe/sys/start.htm?infoid=35107&sid=4&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#.UlXEbbOm1q8
>>>> 
>>>> Brazil will host world event on Internet governance
>>>> 
>>>> From the editor :: Convergência Digital :: 09/10/2013
>>>> 
>>>> Brazil will host the meeting in 2014 to discuss the necessary changes to
>>>> Internet governance. After meeting with the president of the Internet
>>>> Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann, its acronym in
>>>> English), Fadi Chehadé, President Dilma Rousseff agreed to meet global
>>>> leaders from different sectors interested in the topic.
>>>> 
>>>> According to Chehadé, the world counts on Brazil's leadership on this
>>>> issue, after President Dilma Rousseff spoke at the opening of the 68th
>>>> UN General Assembly, held in September in the United States. "The world
>>>> heard the Brazilian president, who spoke with deep conviction, with
>>>> great courage, and expressed the frustration that many people around the
>>>> world feel about the fact that the trust relationship we have with the
>>>> Internet had been broken,"said, revealing that the speech by Dilma was
>>>> the motivation of his proposal for their meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> Chehadé cited allegations of espionage involving the communication of
>>>> Brazilian authorities and citizens, among them the very president,
>>>> Petrobras and the Ministry of Mines and Energy. "I came to ask the
>>>> president to elevate her leadership to a new level, to ensure that we
>>>> can all get together around a new model of governance in which all are
>>>> equal," he said. The president of Icann said that future decisions on
>>>> how leaders can manage the internet should be based on the principles of
>>>> the Civil Rights Framework for the Internet in Brazil which is going
>>>> through the National Congress.
>>>> 
>>>> Fadi Chehadé was yesterday (Oct.7th) with Communications Minister Paulo
>>>> Bernardo, to ask for help from Brazil to start discussions about changes
>>>> in the governance of the Internet, and said that the arrangements should
>>>> begin this year. According to him, the need for a new governing body of
>>>> the Internet requires the involvement of multiple actors, not just the
>>>> government.
>>>> 
>>>> "I understand that the internet has a new feature that requires active
>>>> participation by governments, their respective agencies within the
>>>> United Nations, but also in the context of users, civil society, the
>>>> technicians, who after all make the Internet work," Chehadé defended.
>>>> For the president of the corporation, academics and industrialists need
>>>> to participate in the debate, as they reflect on rights and carry out
>>>> the management of the Internet infrastructure.
>>>> 
>>>> The president of Icann said telecommunications companies must also
>>>> attend the conference."They are integral part of the family with which
>>>> we must work," he said. According to Paulo Bernardo, President Dilma
>>>> agreed that changes in network governance must occur multilaterally and
>>>> with the participation of all actors who engage the internet, and said
>>>> that "we must not allow economic, political and religious interests to
>>>> interfere in the free circulation of ideas." The minister said that the
>>>> suggestion of the president is that the event be held in April 2014 in
>>>> Rio de Janeiro.
>>>> 
>>>> Source : Agência Brazil
>>>> 
>>>> -------- original in pt-br -------------
>>>> 
>>>> O Brasil vai sediar em 2014 o encontro para discutir as mudanças
>>>> necessárias para a governança da internet. Após se encontrar com o
>>>> presidente da Corporação da Internet para Atribuição de Nomes e Números
>>>> (Icann, na sigla em inglês), Fadi Chehadé, a presidenta Dilma Rousseff
>>>> concordou em reunir líderes globais de diferentes setores interessados
>>>> no tema.
>>>> 
>>>> De acordo com Chehadé, o mundo conta com a liderança brasileira nesta
>>>> questão, depois que a Presidenta Dilma Rousseff discursou na abertura da
>>>> 68ª Assembleia Geral da ONU, ocorrida em setembro nos Estados Unidos. “O
>>>> mundo ouviu a Presidenta brasileira, que falou com profunda convicção,
>>>> com muita coragem, e externou a frustração que muitas pessoas, em todo
>>>> mundo, sentiam com o fato de que a confiança havia sido quebrada que
>>>> temos com relação à internet”, disse, revelando que o discurso de Dilma
>>>> foi a motivação da sua proposta para o encontro.
>>>> 
>>>> Chehadé citou as denúncias de espionagem envolvendo a comunicação de
>>>> autoridades e cidadãos brasileiros, dentre eles a própria presidenta, a
>>>> Petrobras e o Ministério de Minas e Energia. “Vim solicitar à presidenta
>>>> que elevasse sua liderança a um novo nível, de modo a assegurar que
>>>> todos possamos nos reunir em torno de um novo modelo de governança, em
>>>> que todos sejamos iguais”, afirmou. O presidente da Icann disse que as
>>>> futuras decisões sobre como os líderes poderão gerir a internet devem
>>>> ter como base os princípios do marco civil brasileiro, que tramita no
>>>> Congresso Nacional.
>>>> 
>>>> Fadi Chehadé esteve anteontem (7) com o ministro das Comunicações, Paulo
>>>> Bernardo, a fim de pedir ajuda do Brasil para iniciar os debates sobre
>>>> mudanças na governança da internet, e disse que as articulações devem
>>>> começar este ano. Segundo ele, a necessidade de um novo órgão gestor da
>>>> internet passa pela participação de múltiplos atores, não só do governo.
>>>> 
>>>> “Entendo que a internet tem um novo recurso, que exige participação
>>>> ativa por parte dos governos, dos seus respectivos órgãos no âmbito das
>>>> Nações Unidas, mas também no âmbito dos usuários, da sociedade civil,
>>>> dos técnicos, que afinal de contas fazem a internet funcionar”, defendeu
>>>> Chehadé. Para o presidente da corporação, os acadêmicos e industriais
>>>> precisam participar do debate, pois refletem sobre o direito e fazem a
>>>> gestão da infraestrutura da internet.
>>>> 
>>>> O presidente da Icann disse que as empresas de telecomunicações devem
>>>> também participar da conferência. “Elas são parte integrante da família
>>>> com a qual precisamos trabalhar”, afirmou. Segundo Paulo Bernardo, a
>>>> presidenta Dilma concordou que as mudanças na governança da rede devem
>>>> ocorrer de forma multilateral e com a participação de todos os atores
>>>> que se envolvem a internet, e disse que não se pode “permitir que
>>>> interesses econômicos, políticos e religiosos interfiram na livre
>>>> circulação das ideias”. O ministro informou que a sugestão da presidenta
>>>> é que o evento ocorra em abril de 2014 no Rio de Janeiro.
>>>> 
>>>> fonte: Agência Brasil
>>>> 
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