Yes, maybe one of our GNSO council members could help us by putting 
together the documents in question and posting in the list. I remember 
reading most of it, but I am having difficulty in locating the whole stuff.

--c.a.

Alan Levin wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2007, at 2:00 PM, Carlos Afonso wrote:
>> I guess this is the proposal from Rader you were looking for.
> 
> Carlos, many thanks for this.  I read it and wish it helped.
> 
> What has this to do with what I think I was disagreeing with, i.e.:
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
>> I am asking ALL NCUC members to express their opinion on this by 
>> replying to this email. Just check one of the two boxes. Add comments 
>> if you have any.
>>
>> NCUC should respond to the Draft Staff Report on Whois by expressing 
>> its support for Motion #3 contained in the report. That motion 
>> declares that there is no consensus on existing Whois policy and asks 
>> that the Whois portions of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement be 
>> "sunsetted" (i.e., expired) at the end of 2008. This motion should NOT 
>> be withdrawn if Motion #1 passes.
> I cannot work out what motion #3 is....
> 
> What has Ross's proposal got to do with the Draft Staff Report on Whois?
> 
> This is complicated.... and hence why my email was not a simple 
> agree/disagree. Maybe someone can help me locate my opinion within the 
> quagmire of documents and views on the whois. I guess this is why I 
> struggle to participate in ncuc is a useful way. My sincere apologies. I 
> will switch back to lurk mode :(
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Ross Rader's resolution on WHOIS
>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:57:19 -0400
>> From: Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> MM: What this means is that the default value becomes "no whois
>> requirement at all" until and unless we can agree on a consensus policy
>> regarding Whois. This was how ICANN was supposed to work - no policy
>> without consensus.
>>
>>
>> Whereas;
>>
>> 1.    The GNSO Council accepts the WG report and appreciates the efforts
>> made by WG participants and ICANN staff in preparing this report.
>> 2.    The GNSO Council does not consider the WG report as sufficiently
>> demonstrating consensus or agreement on substantive policy proposals.
>> 3.    The GNSO Council considers that the lack of consensus demonstrated
>> through this open and inclusive working group is representative of the
>> lack of agreement on key issues in this area of policy.
>> 4.    The GNSO Council recognizes that there is no standing consensus
>> policy concerning the management of the Whois service and data provided
>> to the public through that service by ICANN's contracted commercial
>> operators, the registries and registrars. save and except the Whois Data
>> Reminder Policy and the Whois Marketing Restriction Policy.
>>
>> Therefore;
>>
>> Be it resolved;
>>
>> a) that the GNSO Council concludes the current PDP on Whois.
>> b) graciously thanks all of the volunteers, consultants, staff and
>> others who have participated in the GNSO's examination of Whois policy
>> over the last four years.
>> c) that the GNSO Council makes no specific policy recommendation to the
>> ICANN board at this time concerning Whois or related policy.
>> d) that the GNSO Council recommends to the ICANN staff and Board of
>> Directors that due to the lack of consensus on issues in this area that
>> current contractual requirements concerning Whois for registries,
>> registrars and registrants that are not supported by consensus policy be
>> eliminated from the current operating agreements between ICANN and its
>> contracted parties until such time that consensus policy in this area
>> has been developed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Milton Mueller, Professor
>> Syracuse University
>> School of Information Studies
>> ------------------------------
>> Internet Governance Project:
>> http://internetgovernance.org
>> ------------------------------
>> The Convergence Center:
>> http://www.digitalconvergence.org
>>
>>
>>
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