Hmm... is it the verb "collected" the problem, or do you mean to say
there is no such thing as "traffic data" at the registry level? there
are registry reps participating in these discussions, I haven't heard
any of them say they don't know what traffic data is, or that they
don't use it. And the language you quote from the contracts just
confirms the contrary. 

Or did you want to mean that there is not use of identifiable, or
disclosure of personal, data? I beleive the draft recommendation is
not necessarily limited to that category only. And what you find
troubling about the contract language may be part of the issues that
might be addressed by the recommended study.

Unless I totally misunderstood your point, or the WG's (rapporteur
group) proposal, which is always possible.

Mawaki


--- Danny Younger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Re:  there is a need for a properly targeted study by
> an independent third party on the data collected and
> the uses to which it is put. 
> 
> Sorry, but I really don't see the need for a study. 
> To my knowledge, no registry has yet begun collecting
> such data nor have they been making commercial use of
> such data.  How exactly would someone study the
> current non-use of registry data?
> 
> The relevant contract language is here:
> 
> Traffic Data.  Nothing in this Agreement shall
> preclude Registry Operator from making commercial use
> of, or collecting, traffic data regarding domain names
> or non-existent domain names for purposes such as,
> without limitation, the determination of the
> availability and health of the Internet, pinpointing
> specific points of failure, characterizing attacks and
> misconfigurations, identifying compromised networks
> and hosts, and promoting the sale of domain names;
> provided, however, that such use does not disclose
> domain name registrant, end user information or other
> Personal Data as defined in Section 3.1(c)(ii) for any
> purpose not otherwise authorized by this agreement. 
> The process for the introduction of new Registry
> Services shall not apply to such traffic data.  
> 
> What is troubling about the language is that
> (1)traffic data is exempt from the Registry Services
> Evaluation Process; (2) the purpose for data
> collection is too open-ended, and (3) the usage of
> data pertaining to non-existent domain names will
> assuredly promote massive typosquatting.
> 
> Best regards,
> Danny
> 
> --- Mawaki Chango <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Within the framework of the PDP on the existing
> > registry's
> > contractual conditions, the constituency's position
> > is required BY
> > WEDNESDAY on the draft recommendation below.
> > 
> > My own position is positive.
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mawaki
> > 
> > 
> > --- Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > 
> > > To: PDPfeb06 <[log in to unmask]>
> > > From: Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: [pdp-pcceg-feb06] current proposal
> > > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 15:27:52 -0500
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In order to determine there is a need for a new
> > consensus policy on
> > >  
> > > the use of registry data, including traffic data,
> > for purposes
> > > other  
> > > then which is was collected, there is a need for a
> > properly
> > > targeted  
> > > study by an independent third party on the data
> > collected and the  
> > > uses to which it is put.  The study should provide
> > appropriate  
> > > safeguards to protect any data provided  for the
> > purposes of the  
> > > study, and the confidentiality of which registry
> > provides which
> > > data.  
> > > The findings of the study should be published in
> > an appropriately  
> > > transparent manner.
> > > 
> > > A SOW will be developed by the council, with
> > appropriate public  
> > > review, to cover an analysis of the concerns, the
> > collection and
> > > use  
> > > of data, and the non disciminatory acces to that
> > data.
> > > 
> > > It is recommended that a current processes
> > document be developed , 
> > > 
> > > describing the current practices of the collection
> > of data, what
> > > the  
> > > data is used for, e.g. operating the registry;
> > preparing marketing 
> > > 
> > > materials to promote registration of domain names;
> > gathering of  
> > > ‘null’ returns, ensuring the integrity of the
> > Registry, or the DNS,
> > >  
> > > etc. as example broad categories, and published as
> > a
> > > guideline for Registry data collection and use.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>
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