Hi,

To answer the questions fro my perspective:

- Stéphane's  idea was to include Constituency as well as SG chairs/v-chairs.  So for now, there were 2 from NCSG and 1 from NCUC.  Once NPOC and CC were full constituencies they would have been added.  So not quite equal to the CSG yet, but eventually.  It was also going to include the chair and V-chairs of the Council and the GNSO secretariat - but not the policy staff (since it wasn't there to discuss policy)

- We talked about archiving the list and while Konstantinos and I argued for open archive, others didn't.  So it wasn't going to be archived at least not at the start.

- While the purpose is not to talk about policy, it wasn't purely administrative.  It might have included topics such as budget and other institutional concerns like strategy and constituency and SG operations.  Since the council seems to think that these things are its province (not sure why) there may have been some overlap in discussions

The problem is that the GNSO Council really does believe that it is the GNSO Executive Committee and not just its Policy committee; i.e, that its job is to manage the GNSO and not just the GTLD Policy Function.  I personally think that this council is reaching beyond its mandate.

So the list was started.  But then it was closed because of the objection by various Council members.  I would be suprised if it is allowed to start up again.  Lasted for a few hours, but was yet another victim of the council.

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On 19 Jan 2011, at 15:11, Robin Gross wrote:

> Thanks, KK.  I agree that this list is a good idea to open up communication between the various ICANN silos.  So often I feel like the community is much more easily "managed" by allowing staff to act as the go-between with various SO-ACs to explain the views of the others.  More cross-community dialogue would be a good thing and would not replace discussions or decisions that take place elsewhere.  
> 
> Two important caveats though: i) I would want NCSG and CSG to be equally represented in the discussion (not 1 NCSG constituency rep and 3 CSG constituency reps, but equal participation).  And ii) this discussion list should be publicly archived.
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> I am under the impression this list is more about discussing administrative issues, like organizing meetings, and not for policy discussions or making important decisions.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  Thank you.
> 
> My 2 cents,
> Robin
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> On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Konstantinos Komaitis wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>>  
>> I would like to hear your views on the following initiative by Stephane Van Gelder, Chair of the GNSO. Stephane has suggested the creation of a mailing list where the chairs of Constituencies and Stakeholder groups would be able to interact. This mailing list is meant to be informal and would simply serve as a discussion point between the chairs of the various constituencies and/or stakeholder groups and the council.
>>  
>> I would like to clarify, however, in order to avoid any misunderstanding: the list that Stephane is suggesting is NOT meant to be about policy discussions and is NOT meant to replace the role of the Council. It is a way to build channels of communication between the chairs and the council – just that.
>>  
>> I personally support the idea on the basis that this list is archived and publicly accessible so interested parties are able to see/follow the discussions. I think it is a great idea for the different groups to interact with each other.
>>  
>> Many thanks
>>  
>> KK
>>  
>> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,
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