Dear Robin,

Is this a threat?  Are you planning to turn me out? 

At the time Konstantinos gave me his first recommendation, it was not in my responsibility to question how the Constituency made its decisions.  It was only once I no longer had such responsibility that I was free to question it.

Best Regards,

avri

On 14 Nov 2011, at 18:12, Robin Gross wrote:

> I'm sorry, but this just looks like sour grapes to me.  You had no complaint about these appointments when they were first given to you a couple months ago.  It was not until Konstantinos said he could not re-open the earlier decision and appoint you instead that you had this burning desire to take this alleged "transparency" issue to this list.  
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> Constructive participation is always welcome.  Aggressive hecklers with an axe to grind get tuned out after awhile.
> 
> Robin
> 
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> On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> 
>> Transparency in the Constituency is not just another process problem.  It is critical to the proper functioning of the Constituency.  It is central to the bottom-up process.
>> 
>> Again, my selection is not the reason for this 'diversion'.  Had I been selected it might have been more difficult for me to bring up these issues as I would have had officer responsibilities to the EC and would not have felt it appropriate to get involved in Constituency issues at this level.  So I am grateful to have the opportunity to work on trying to fix the NCUC transparency and accountability issues.  It took a while for me to realize my responsibility as a member who was no longer in the leadership, but now that I have, I will pursue these issue, even if it annoys people.
>> 
>> But make no mistake, the lack of transparency and accountability in the NCUC is the issue.
>> 
>> avri
>> 
>> On 14 Nov 2011, at 17:39, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>> 
>>> Really, I have to strongly second what Robin says here. Avri, I am sorry you were not selected this time but that is no reason to divert everyone's attention by inventing another process problem. 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>>> Of Robin Gross
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 5:30 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] NCUC elections for Chair and EC
>>>> Importance: High
>>>> 
>>>> It seems you misunderstand those emails below.  I had asked the
>>>> constituency chairs to reconfirm appointments that had been made - about a
>>>> month ago to you - since I was creating a new email list and needed to be
>>>> sure I had the proper email addresses on the list.  I was not asking the
>>>> constituency chairs to open-up a decision that had been made a month ago
>>>> and potentially kick out new appointments that had been made a month ago
>>>> to the NCSG.   Sorry if you thought this was a new call for new appointments
>>>> and an opportunity to take one of those new appointments for yourself.   I
>>>> don't think it is fair to criticize Konstantinos for not selecting you for one of
>>>> the appointments since you had more than a year to do the job yourself
>>>> already.
>>>> 
>>>> Robin
>>>> 
>> 
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