hi,

Actually, have they delivered the board approved charter to the group  
yet?

In reading over the draft that was out for comment (the comments that  
were ignored), I find that they put no provision in for electing an SG  
Council representatives because that privilege was left up to the  
Board (5.0).  But it ignores the possibility that one of the seats  
becomes vacant because a term ends.

Actually they do make provision for the Executive Committee (EC) of  
the SG to appoint someone to fill one of the seat if it is vacated  
(3.2.4, though it refers to a 5.1 that is missing).

BTW, anyone notice that in the case of fewer then 4 constituencies in  
the EC, each constituency only gets 2 EC seats.  So with only one  
constituency, the EC is 2 people.

Anyway, as far as I can tell - it the NCUC were to live with it - at  
some point the NCUC needs to appoint 2 people to the EC (one of who  
will be SG chair and the other SG v-chair) and they need to pick  
Carlos' replacement.

This charter really is an absurd idiotic mess.  Maybe the version they  
approved has fewer holes.

As an alternative, I believe that were the NCUC to hold an election to  
replace Carlos before the new By-laws were approved then that person  
would be seated as an SG representative once the by-laws were approved.


a.


On 13 Aug 2009, at 14:36, Avri Doria wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I understand that the NCUC wants to ask for reconsideration of the  
> charter, and I don't disagree, though I also do not hold out much  
> hope for a favorable resolution at this time - as far as I can tell  
> they are circling the wagons and making sure that none of the Board  
> members waver in the light of outside pressure.
>
> What I am curious about is what do we want to do about forming the  
> NCSG.  There is an approved charter and it could be used even while  
> asking for reconsideration - we can be explicit about following  
> through with the less then acceptable charter until such time as it  
> is replaced by a proper charter is a matter of expediency and does  
> not reflect any acceptance of the SG for that charter.
>
> What I am worried about is that we would add self-injury to those  
> injuries already being inflicted by the powers that be,.  I.e. in  
> addition to being denied the 3 seats that should belong to the NCSG  
> but currently are being controlled by the Board and Staff, we would  
> also be down one seat in that Carlos' terms ends and a replacement  
> needs to be chosen at the SG level.
>
> Just asking.
>
> a.