On 6 Mar 2011, at 01:17, Marc Perkel wrote:

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> This is what I see as the stakes in the balance of power between freedom and oppression and freedom must win. The way I see it governments shouldn't even be at the table let alone in control.


While as a utopian normative statement, i might want to agree, the point is they are in control of our lives and bringing them to the table is a step in the right direction.

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