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Carlos Afonso <[log in to unmask]>
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Ditto!

--c.a.

Norbert Klein wrote:
> Excellent math research - where does it go, beyond our internal NCUC list? Do we 
> have a PUBLIC wiki or something where facts can be added, updated etc., and one 
> can invite and direct other people (who many not be readers of the NCUC-DISCUSS 
> list) to see these facts?
> 
> One of the problem which led to the present crisis is - I think - that we were 
> not organized well enough (like other interests were, who have other resources) 
> to spread our side of the story as it developed.
> 
> 
> Norbert
> 
> =
> 
> Robin Gross wrote:
>> The Facts.
>>
>> Commercial Stakeholder Group Membership.
>> According to the Business Constituency's website, they have 44 members 
>> <http://www.bizconst.org/members.htm>.
>> According to the IPR Constituency's website, they have 18 members 
>> <http://www.ipconstituency.org/membership.htm>.
>> According to the ISP Constituency's website <http://www.ispcp.info/>, (they 
>> don't publish membership lists and haven't had a post to their email lis 
>> <http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ispcp/>t in 2009).  But, 
>> according the 2006 LSE Report (the last documented account of the ISP 
>> Constituency's membership, they have 42 members.
>>
>> So if we add the membership of these 3 commercial constituencies together, we 
>> get  total of 104 members in the Commercial Stakeholder Group, who will elect 
>> 6 GNSO Councilors.
>>
>> Contrast:
>> NCUC has 142 members <http://ncdnhc.org/page/membership-roster> but 
>> noncommercial users will not be allowed to elect any of our new GNSO 
>> Councilors on the claim that we are too small to deserve to elect all 6 GNSO 
>> Councilors.
>>
>> Did anyone from ICANN staff/SIC do any math before they ruled non-commercial 
>> users are too small to deserve to elect all 6 GNSO Councilors?
>>   NCSG membership = 142 members (allowed 3 elected representatives)
>>   CSG membership = 104 members (allowed 6 representatives)
>>
>> What was the decision-making process that led to ICANN's determination that 
>> noncommercial users are too small?  Seriously, we deserve to know how they 
>> arrived at that decision and upon what facts the decision was based - it is 
>> our elected representation that they are meddling with.  ICANN will have to 
>> answer this.
>>
>>
>> IP JUSTICE
>> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: [log in to unmask] 
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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