Hi Debbie,

Once we had the text I was going to check with the EC to determine whether the comment could go as an NCSG statement or needed to go as NCUC statement (assuming it gets NCUC approval).

At this point your objections would make it only a candidate for NCUC statement as the NCSG-EC operates on a full consensus basis.

Is there some change that would make the statement acceptable to you?  Alternatively can you elaborate on your issues with the statement.

Thanks

a.

On 6 May 2010, at 11:25, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> All,
> 
> If this comment is intended to be comment submitted by the NCSG, then
> please let the record reflect that I cannot endorse filing any comment
> on this issue.   
> 
> Debbie
> 
> Debra Y. Hughes, Senior Counsel
> American Red Cross
> 
> Office of the General Counsel 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 9:45 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Cc: 'NCSG-Policy'
> Subject: [ncsg-policy] Revised xxx comment
> 
> Hi, this has been revised to reflect Avri's and Mary Wong's comments. So
> you can see the changes, I have used a Word doc with the tracking
> function on. A text version pasted below.
> 
> Milton L. Mueller
> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> XS4ALL Professor, Technology University of Delft
> 
> ====
> 
> Comments of the Noncommercial Stakeholders
> 
> The Noncommercial Users Constituency and Noncommercial Stakeholders
> Group (NCSG) represent nearly 200 nonprofit organizations, public
> interest advocacy groups, educators, researchers, philanthropic
> organizations and individuals. 
> 
> NCUC and NCSG believe that ICANN has a very simple choice to make in its
> handling of the .xxx domain.  The board can accept the fact that ICANN
> made serious mistakes in its handling of the matter and then make a good
> faith effort to rectify those mistakes - or it can refuse to do so. That
> is all there is to this decision. The complicated "process options"
> offered by the general counsel are distractions. Either ICANN accepts
> the determination of the independent review panel and creates the .xxx
> domain, or it doesn't. Those are the only "options" of relevance to the
> community.
> 
> Noncommercial users believe that the board should accept the decision of
> its independent review panel and prepare to add .xxx to the root.
> Anything less will raise serious doubts about ICANN's accountability
> mechanisms and will undermine the legitimacy of the corporation and its
> processes. The contract offered to ICM Registry should be based on the
> same template as that offered to .mobi, .jobs and other contemporaneous
> applicants for sponsored TLDs.
> 
> Noncommercial stakeholders are deeply interested in the outcome of the
> .xxx application for two reasons. 
> 1)	As supporters of improved accountability for ICANN, we would be
> deeply concerned by a Board decision that ignored ICANN's own
> Independent Review process. The IRP is one of ICANN's few external
> accountability mechanisms. The .xxx case was the first test of that
> process. A group of distinguished and neutral panelists reviewed the
> record of this case in extensive detail, and decided against ICANN. A
> Board decision that ignores or circumvents the IRP decision would
> seriously undermine ICANN's credibility and raise fundamental questions
> about its accountability mechanisms. We also feel that refusal to comply
> with the IRP will encourage dispute settlement through litigation in
> national courts, which is not in the interests of ICANN or its global
> community.
> 2)	ICANN's decision has important implications for Internet freedom
> of expression. While a .xxx domain is undeniably controversial, ICANN
> must guard against becoming a tool of those who wish to discourage or
> censor certain kinds of legal content. A TLD string to should not be
> rejected simply because some people or some governments object to the
> types of content that might be associated with it. ICANN's mandate to
> coordinate top level domain names cannot and should not become a
> mechanism for content regulation or censorship.
> 
> To conclude, we ask the Board to look past the noise that will surely be
> generated by any public discussion that touches on pornography. This
> public comment period should not be a poll assessing the popularity of
> the .xxx domain. The board must focus exclusively on compliance with its
> own appeals process and strive to maintain ICANN's integrity.