Alain,

Glad to describe my circumstances, as it may provide some insight into one
category of non-commercial domain registrants (i.e., individuals, personal
use) that merits effective representation within and by NCSG.

I've replied to your query about private email offlist, since it starts to
contain enough detail that it need not be on a public forum such as this
list (which is posted publicly to the web, in case anyone is not aware).

https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=NCSG-DISCUSS

That's about all time permits at present.  Congratulations on your election
to the CECI board.

Dan



At 10:49 AM -0400 10/2/11, Alain Berranger wrote:
>Dear Dan,
>
>Thanks a lot for your comprehensive response and development on the
>benefits of using an hosting service.
>
>I have used Google mail for quite some time now and realize that my
>content is not private if only because of the mining-for-ads feature... I
>was attracted by - and really like - the very very efficient spam blocking
>capacity of google.mail as well as its email storage and search capacity
>(I like not having to file my emails for instance but don't know if
>anybody does that anymore, but have seen  in my working days how many
>people wasted so much time doing that!). Also, being retired with limited
>income, I find it an easy and cheap solution and of course I do not use
>gmail for sensitive issues or confidential purposes. Finally, I like the
>ease of access when out of my home and not having to carry a notebook
>around when travelling.
>
>That said I would prefer to have my email on a more private channel than
>gmail and welcome your suggestions if you have a moment.
>
>In relation to that and also of relevance to my running for NCSG
>elections, I'm pleased to report that yesterday, I was elected for 3 years
>to the Board of Directors of CECI -
>see <http://www.ceci.ca/en/>http://www.ceci.ca/en/, the largest
>international not for profit cooperation NGO in Quebec. I am hoping they
>will set up an email account for me, but don't know yet if it is a
>practice of theirs.
>
>Again, thanks for your response and I am loooking forward to continued
>dialogue, time permitting for all, as I and other candidates answer the 7
>questions put to all of us.
>
>Best, Alain
>
>On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Dan Krimm
><<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>Thanks for your reply, Alain.  I may have further reactions later on, but
>quickly in response to one question of yours:
>
>
>On Fri, September 30, 2011 6:49 am, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
>> ... I suspect you do not hold .com
>
>> domains
>> to lose money neither, although I fully understand that making money from
>> them is not a primary objective, just a necessary sustainable process I
>> imagine. I do not know your activities but assume the .com domain names
>> you
>> use are mission-critical to the achievements of these activities. As a
>> matter of curiosity, what is your rationale in going for a .com instead of
>> a
>> .org domain name?
>
>In my individual case, in 1996 when I got my two related domains, I was
>not sure if I was going to use them for commercial purposes or not -- I
>wanted to hold out for that possibility.  Also, I registered these domains
>(and continue to hold them at present) as an individual -- I am not
>incorporated as a 501c3 org in the US (or any other formal incorporation).
> At the time I was under the impression that I had to be a 501c3 to apply
>for .org (back then I was still a little bit of an Internet newbie, only
>about 3 years into it).
>
>As it turns out, I have not moved in a commercial direction in practice,
>and my use is more often personal, not even "non-commercial" in any
>institutional sense (though the "title" web site is a sort of "pre-blog"
>publication of sorts).  It's more like ISP service to me, and in that
>sense I do lose a bit of money, but among other things I get my own
>personal email cloud service out of it without giving access to my email
>data to anyone else such as Google (well, aside from email I might
>exchange with gmail users...).
>
>What may be more important to some policy considerations here (such as
>WHOIS privacy) is that I use a hosting service that hosts my web site and
>email accounts, not just domain hosting/registration.  So for all
>real-time technical issues, that service would be the go-to technical
>authority, not me/the registrant -- I would simply be an extra step in the
>process to resolve technical issues, not a more direct path.  Going only
>to me directly would slow things down, if I happen not to be checking my
>personal email at the moment.
>
>For non-real-time and non-technical issues, real-time response doesn't
>seem as pertinent in terms of sustaining reliable Internet function, and
>due process would seem to be a good thing to prioritize.
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>
>--
>Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone and
>do not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer.
>
>
>
>
>--
>Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>Member, Board of Directors,
>CECI, <http://www.ceci.ca/en/>http://www.ceci.ca/en/
>
>Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
><http://www.schulich.yorku.ca>www.schulich.yorku.ca
>Trustee, GKP Foundation,
><http://www.globalknowledgepartnership.org>www.globalknowledgepartnership.org
>Vice Chair, NPOC, ICANN, <http://npoc.org/>http://npoc.org/
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