As a less than a year old member, ICANN and NCUC sometimes seems like
a complex matrix. The acronyms, abbreviations, emerging issues and
questions are numerous!
A new member may be overwhelmed at first.
But take heart, the discussions on the mailing list do at least
simplify the issues for the most part...
Yes, there is need to cultivate members.
On 24/05/2010, Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The number of people interested in what ICANN does is intrinsically a small
> portion of the politically active population.
> The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a
> membership organization related to icann is a small portion of the previous
> portion of the population.
> The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing to join a
> membership organization related to icann AND willing to vote or otherwise
> participate in specific processes is a small portion of previous portion of
> the population.
> The number of people interested in and capable of using all this effort to
> make decisions and administer policies are an even smaller bunch (and may or
> may not be drawn from the previous population).
> <repeat as necessary>
>
> Bottom line of this cascade:
> I agree with Bill, too. We need to cultivate the people we have.
>
> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Rafik Dammak
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:20 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Welcoming a new NCSG member
>
> Hi,
>
> I totally agree with Bill, I think for outreach we are doing well and we
> can continue on that, but I think that having more people participating in
> WGs, making public comments and drafting NCSG statements is urgent.
>
> Regards
>
> Rafik
>
> 2010/5/24 William Drake
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Hi
>
> I'm on the board of EURALO, a chunk of which (not me, thankfully) spent a
> great deal of time going back and forth with staff on the production and
> distribution of a single sheet fold-over brochure. After a rather
> protracted process, a few folks have now started to drag stacks around to
> meetings like EuroDIG, and perhaps this will ultimately lead to some new ALS
> applications, but one does have to wonder whether this kind of old school
> outreach was worth the effort that went into it relative to other work. In
> the meanwhile, NCUC grew enormously over the past year or so largely through
> Robin's online outreach.
>
> Our immediate problem isn't to draw in more folks, but rather to consolidate
> and more fully engage the ones we already have, in the first instance on the
> charter vote. If we can meet the threshold and get the charter passed ASAP,
> then sure our media team http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam could explore a
> leaflet as part of its strategy. But I wouldn't let a piece of paper
> distract the whole group from the pressing task at hand.
>
> Two cents,
>
> Bill
>
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>
>> What shocked me in the NARALO process is that - given a long drawn
>> out, and presumably costly at their end, design process - when asked
>> how many they would print ICANN staff responded as few as possible,
>> suggesting 100 or so would suffice. I would have thought a run of 5000
>> or so would be in order, just to punt some out to every ALS etc. to
>> give out at meetings, but they are just thinking Brussels.
>>
>> Similarly, I would think in our case. I like the idea of doing
>> something like http://kickstarter.com where everyone pledges until a
>> sufficient amount is reached - altho I'm not fond of kickstarter's
>> Amazon payment scheme. If a 501c3 was needed as a fiscal sponsor that
>> US tax-deductible donations could be be made to I'd think ISOC-NY
>> would be willing.
>>
>> 1-800-postcards charges ~ $250 for 500 brochures, there would be some
>> additional shipping.
>> http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11
>>
>> The least that could be done is to design something that can posted as
>> a pdf and then printed at will.
>>
>> joly
>>
>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Avri Doria
>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We canot assume any help at all from ICANN.
>>>
>>> But we can ask if that is what we want to do. Then again, once the
>>> charter vote is complete and we know where we are going, that is one of
>>> the reasons I finally want to get on track with the fundraising plans I
>>> have put off because of the amount of work involved in the charter
>>> process. While it is all well and good to look to ICANn for help, we
>>> need need to find a way to fund our own needs, including pamphlets and
>>> getting members from developing regions to the meeting so they can
>>> participate fully in the ICANN process.
>>>
>>> a.
>>>
>>> On 23 May 2010, at 18:19, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> The NARALO brochure, copy and overall design having been decided by
>>>> members, is being designed and printed by ICANN. Can we assume that
>>>> they would extend the same facility to NCSG?
>>>>
>>>> We also used the ICANN Social Text wiki to do the design
>>>> collaboration. https://st.icann.org/
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Fouad Bajwa
>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>> First welcoming on board AAMC and Amber to the constituency in ICANN
>>>>> with a Soul ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, this new addition just triggered the idea that it would be
>>>>> viable to explore and contribute a NCSG brochure like a bookmark on
>>>>> the lines of the ones we received around the ICANN meeting in Nairobi
>>>>> for example, from NOMCOM, ALAC and separate for their regional
>>>>> organizations, about ICANN, about ccNSO etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> This small bookmarker like brochure with NCSG can share what it is,
>>>>> its objectives and how to join the NCSG and its membership level and a
>>>>> link to the website/email contact. This would be very useful in
>>>>> raising awareness amongst ICANN participants especially the new ones
>>>>> that add up to the ICANN community each year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its a start you know :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Best
>>>>> Fouad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Avri Doria
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am happy to announce that the Association of American Medical
>>>>>> Colleges has been accepted by the NCSG Executive Committee as an
>>>>>> organizational member of the NCSG.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From their website http://www.aamc.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The AAMC represents all 132 accredited U.S. and 17 accredited Canadian
>>>>>> medical schools; approximately 400 major teaching hospitals and health
>>>>>> systems, including 68 Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers;
>>>>>> and nearly 90 academic and scientific societies. Through these
>>>>>> institutions and organizations, the AAMC represents 125,000 faculty
>>>>>> members, 75,000 medical students, and 106,000 resident physicians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amber Sterling will be their primary representative to the NCSG and
>>>>>> has been added to this discussion list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome AAMC, Welcome Amber.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
>>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
>>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
>>>> Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
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>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com
>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
>> Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org
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