Yes Kathy…, exactly. Separating the discussions of the substantive issues from the process is the priority at the Council level. I’m also trying to figure out wether the change of context in terms of what the policy development process was like back in 2007 compared to now is a factor that needs to be considered. I don’t imagine it is, but am still wondering.

Thanks.

Amr

On Apr 11, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Kathy Kleiman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Horacio makes very good points. Like Amr, however, I am concerned about the creation of policy for so many new registries (hundreds) through an exception process. In this case, I don't see a huge problem with the outcome, but in the future, there might be. I think re-enforcing the "process" aspects of this work, and urging that exceptions continue to receive very close scrutiny -- especially exceptions that have broad and far reaching implications for many registries - makes sense for the GNSO Council.
> 
> But like, Horacio, I understand where Specification 13 came from and why it was adopted, and it fits a need that has been clearly voiced.
> 
> Best,
> Kathy:
>> On April 9, 2014 11:01:19 PM Amr Elsadr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks McTim,
>>> 
>>> Substantively, I agree with you and I sympathise with the registries
>>> that have .brand applications. On the other hand, I am concerned with >gTLD policy being developed by the ICANN board purely from a
>>> process perspective. I would argue on that point out of principle. The
>>> idea of the ICANN board developing policy is not one that I relish.
>> 
>> IIRC, the application guidebook provides the applicants
>> an avenue for requesting for exemptions from some of the
>> specifications.  Specification 13 looks like an embodiment
>> of an exemption sought by a specific group. So this isn't really
>> developing a new policy.
>> 
>> Like McTim I find it very strange why .Brands would need to
>> use registrars at all.  Another is why they would need to escrow their
>> data.  After all, a closed brand's registrants are all units of the
>> brand. If the registry fails, it is the brand which suffers, not an innocent
>> 3rd party which needs protection from ICANN
>> 
>> 
>> 
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