Hi all,

ICANN staff has now submitted their response, which I'm attaching. As
expected they took a harder line against several of the
recommendations, including in many cases on very vague lines ("could
impact resourcing and operations", "could have significant impact on
ICANN’s ability to serve its mission", etc.).

This might be worth checking out in crafting the NCSG response.

Michael

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Stephanie Perrin
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> My compliments to Michael Karanicolas on the report itself, it is really
> excellent! You and your colleagues did great work here.
>
> I made a few comments here and there, but having missed the discussion I did
> not want to go too far.  The "hotline" though, really needs work.  The Navex
> report made many excellent recommendations, is there any possibility of
> revisiting after ICANN implements them, other than the five year review you
> recommend?  We need better mechanisms for independent review of a number of
> issues, and certainly whistleblower reports and potential appeals for
> retaliation are two that seem to leap out.
>
> I am going to go back in and make further comments about the overall
> difficulty of finding anything on the ICANN website.  But thanks both for
> this!!
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
>
> On 2017-04-07 18:54, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry about the delay in responding - I was on another deadline today. The
> Comments have been fairly quiet so far. There's been a statement from a
> lawyer from the National Internet Exchange of India with some fairly loopy
> ideas (like creating an "abuse team" to handle vexatious requests). There's
> also been a very nice letter signed by 53 NGOs fully endorsing the
> Recommendations. And that's it. Which means that ICANN staff/ICANN legal are
> likely going to wait until just before the deadline to put in their
> response.
> As a result, it may be helpful to reinforce the need for more transparency
> from ICANN legal, which I'm sure is going to be contentious, but which I
> believe many on this list may see as a priority. It's great that the
> Submission mentions the need to respond despite competing work pressures, as
> I expect we'll get pushback there as well.
> The only other thing I would suggest adding is to maybe reinforce
> Recommendation #14, which narrows the public interest test so it allows for
> disclosures in the public interest but not any refusal on public interest
> grounds. This is actually enormously important. If ICANN can refuse a
> request on vague "public interest" grounds, that basically renders the list
> of exceptions worthless. Not sure if we'll get specific pushback from ICANN
> on that front, but the NIEI lawyer is arguing against it, so would be
> helpful to reinforce.
> Just some thoughts. Looking good so far, in my humble opinion,
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Matthew Shears <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Hoping that you might be able to jump in on this.    See doc below.
>>
>> Michael please have a look at the comments so far and your thoughts as
>> author would be greatly appreciated.  What's missing - anything we should be
>> focused on?
>>
>> Its due imminently and there has not really been enough comment.
>>
>> As my membership status is somewhat in flux perhaps you could circulate
>> this more broadly to NCSG discus and PC to get input.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>> On 04/04/2017 18:47, matthew shears wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Have taken a first go at comments on this excellent report.
>>
>> Link:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xLCMDHoAqdo6pShdTEThHPDvsNYXpTkv1eaHFDMMwBI/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> DId not quite get to the Hotline - apologies.  Also raised some questions
>> for your thoughts.
>>
>> Please have at it!
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> ([log in to unmask])
>>
>>
>> On 03/04/2017 14:01, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Michael and Matt, happy to comment on a google doc once it is
>> ready.  Reading the report now....
>>
>> Cheers Stephanie
>>
>>
>> On 2017-04-03 08:43, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephanie,
>>
>> Actually, Matthew Shears has taken over the lead on drafting the NCSG
>> response to the transparency report (we thought it better that he do
>> it - given that I was one of the group's Rapporteurs).
>>
>> Maybe he can offer an update? The deadline for submissions is in a week.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Stephanie Perrin
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Indeed Mamadou, I think that Michael Karanicolas was doing a draft
>> on
>> the transparency report but beyond that I am not sure who is working on
>> first drafts (I just know it is not me!!)
>>
>> Please folks, we need some volunteers here.
>>
>> Stephanie Perrin
>>
>>
>> On 2017-03-31 08:30, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, Mamadou. I hope the NCSG will be able to respond to
>> most
>> of these consultations. If we have any members from Ethiopia or Eritrea
>> (or
>> who can read the Ethiopic script), we could work together on a response to
>> the below-mentioned Proposal for Ethiopic Script Root Zone‬ Label
>> Generation
>> Rules.
>>
>> - Ayden
>>
>>
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