Dear Dorothy,

Certainly when I was with the IGF secretariat, yes we worked with the
local LEA.  But those roles were not self defined by a volunteers from
one of the constituencies, they were assigned to specific members of the
secretariat.  I know that as a member of the IGF secretariat, had one of
the participants started negotiating with the police about possible
crimes yet to be committed, we would have gone ballistic, well in a
polite UNish manner.

Oh well, I just do not understand.

avri

On 24-Jun-16 13:13, Dorothy K. Gordon wrote:
> >From my experience in running conferences we often work closely with the police ahead of time. This is so we are clear on all protocols that need to be followed 'in case'. Certainly the UN always works closely with the police and other relevant security agencies for all major meetings. I do not see Edwards's outreach as damaging. I just feel that we are not making progress here so perhaps we drop the topic. We have so much work and the back and forth will not change the past. There is an ongoing 'change process' these are never easy, some mistakes will be made but hopefully one day we will get to where we want to be which for me would be that meetings would be safe spaces. Please let us move on and other interventions can be off-list.
>
> best 
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> Good points, Avri and James. Fully agree. 
> Best 
> Tatiana 
> On 24 Jun 2016 19:14, "James Gannon" < [log in to unmask] > wrote: 
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> I agree with Avri, 
> This may have been in good intentions but goes way way beyond anything that our representatives should be putting them selves into role wise, and personally I also don’t feel that anyone has the right to make themselves an intermediary between a person and the LE of a country, share relevant information and make sure we are all aware and alert but I don’t agree with the path this has gone down. 
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> -James 
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> On 24/06/2016, 18:08, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of avri doria" < [log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask] > wrote: 
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>> On 24-Jun-16 08:24, Edward Morris wrote: 
>>> I have made contact with the appropriate officers in the Helsinki 
>>> Police Department 
>>
>> You went to the police? 
>>
>> When no crime had been reported in Finland? 
>>
>> I do not understand why someone would do this. And I am concerned that 
>> assigning such a role to yourself not only opens you up to counter 
>> charges, but starts to resemble vigilantism. 
>>
>> The idea of a man setting himself as the address for vulnerable women 
>> who feel they have been harassed concerns me, in and of itself. 
>>
>> I do advise being careful in what powers you take upon yourself. 
>>
>> Avri 
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