Hi Matt,

Could you explain how the NotA "just does not work"?
I think we've had NotA choice in most elections in the past,
and when we didn't people complained.

As for having thresholds for being elected, that would require
change in the charter, I think. As it happens last NCSG EC
meeting last Friday just started a process to collect possible
changes to the charter, I will make note of this and add it
to the list.

Tapani

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:55:52AM +0100, matthew shears ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> + 1 James and Tatiana.  The NOTA just does not work and would suggest
> thresholds should be established for candidates to be elected if there is
> only one candidate per slot.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On 22/08/2016 10:50, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
> >I agree with James,
> >For example (I am just talking theoretically) one can't vote for 2 of
> >three candidates + NOTA, because NOTA would mean that no candidate is
> >selected. No reference to our councillor candidates for the current
> >election here, but there is a general vulnerability in the process when
> >the number of the candidates match the number of seats. Means that if this
> >is not fixed, in the future in similar situation one can get elected even
> >with one vote.
> >There is a serious flaw in the process and a serious issue of this system
> >for me.
> >Warm regards
> >Tatiana
> >
> >
> >
> >On 22 August 2016 at 11:44, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]
> ><mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> >    Hi Tapani
> >
> >    Just on process where does the NOTA candidate come from with
> >    regards to our charter, as it seems that the inclusion of a NOTA
> >    candidate is not referenced anywhere.
> >    Also we have a serious election process flaw in that with the
> >    manner in which NOTA is given is makes it impossible for us not to
> >    elect a full slate of candidates if the number of candidates
> >    matches the number of positions, which makes this essentially an
> >    acclimation.
> >    Not sure if others have raised this in the past but having served
> >    in the past while I was in university as an independent election
> >    observer it seems like a pretty serious issue to me.
> >
> >
> >    -james
> >
> >    -----Original Message-----
> >    From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >    <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Tapani Tarvainen
> >    Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 10:19 AM
> >    To: [log in to unmask]
> >    <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >    Subject: *Important* NCSG 2016 Annual Elections - voting has started
> >
> >    Dear all,
> >
> >    Voting has started on NCSG annual elections.
> >
> >    If you checked in on time, you should have received or receive
> >    soon your individual ballot message from [log in to unmask]
> >    <mailto:[log in to unmask]> with subject
> >
> >    "Ballot ID and URL for Election: 'NCSG Chair/GNSO Councillors
> >    election 2016'"
> >
> >    If you don't see it, look at your spam folders first.
> >
> >    The message contains an URL directing you to your individual
> >    ballot (do not share it with anyone else).
> >
> >    Following it you'll get to the page where you can indicate who you
> >    want to vote for: first Chair, then Councillors.
> >
> >    Tick the ones you like and click "Submit ballot".
> >
> >    If you change your mind you can do so simply by voting again:
> >    only the last one will be counted.
> >
> >    Voting period ends on September 4 - make sure you vote before that.
> >
> >    If you have any questions about the process, please do not
> >    hesitate to ask.
> >
> >    --
> >    Tapani Tarvainen
> >    NCSG Chair
> >
> >
> 
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