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Niel,

With all due respect, i believe by reading our statements, you will easily see what everyone stands for and what everyone is willing to accomplish if elected on the Council.

I don't see the point for candidates to start arguing against one another; what we are all looking forward to is to be able to better represent the NCSG and its values.

I am sure our dear membership will be able to make their choice, not based on our differences but on what we said we want to accomplish. And then, they will be able to judge us based on our statement.

Arsene

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Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)

> On Aug 25, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Niels ten Oever <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was indeed asking what makes you stand out, or as Martin put it: what
> makes you different from other councilors.
> 
> We will need to choose, so perhaps can you help us make it a bit easier
> by helping us understand what the difference is among you.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Niels
> 
>> On 08/25/2017 06:49 PM, Tatiana Tropina wrote:
>> Niels and all, 
>> I agree with Martin on this. I had some troubles understanding your
>> question. There are plenty of things that make us all unique but at the
>> end it's shared values that bring us here at NCSG. 
>> I would also have to make up the response to your question as I have to
>> have a deep knowledge of other candidates to claim my uniqueness. 
>> Warm regards, 
>> Tatiana 
>> 
>> On Fri 25. Aug 2017 at 15:34, Martin Pablo Silva Valent
>> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Niels,
>>    If you are talking about what makes my position on public safety
>>    unique, I would have to know more in deep other's positions. I’m
>>    guessing if we all dig enough we are going to find different points
>>    of view, but since we all share a common intuition is hard to guess
>>    my uniqueness from them. I would have to force or guess a difference.
>>    Or you were asking: ¿what makes us different from other councilors?
>> 
>>    Cheers,
>>    Martín
>> 
>>>    On Aug 25, 2017, at 5:48 AM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]
>>>    <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Hi Niels,
>>> 
>>>    I consider my positions on the issues at the core of what the NCSG
>>>    advocates for – supporting a Domain Name System that is
>>>    innovative, protects the global public sphere, and is reliable –
>>>    to be normative and consistent with the positions that the NCSG
>>>    and its constituencies have taken since inception. To the best of
>>>    my knowledge I have not taken any positions which are
>>>    fundamentally inconsistent with the NCSG's principles or mission.
>>> 
>>>    However, outside of our core activities, there is one area where
>>>    it is possible my views diverge from some other members. I tend to
>>>    see things in transactional terms, so my position on the value of
>>>    some ICANN-funded programmes could be influenced by what return on
>>>    investment I see being generated. I would find it difficult to
>>>    continue supporting a programme where I thought metrics were
>>>    either lacking or revealing no justifiable return. Now whether, as
>>>    a GNSO Councillor, I would have any involvement in determining the
>>>    future of such programmes, is quite another question.
>>> 
>>>    I hope this answers your question, Niels. As always, I am happy to
>>>    expand upon my remarks or to answer any other questions.
>>> 
>>>    Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Ayden Férdeline
>>>    Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:40 pm, Niels ten Oever
>>>    <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>    wrote:
>>>>    Thank you very much candidates for your statements! All very
>>>>    eloquent and spot on at the same time. The fact that the opinions
>>>>    are also converging gives a lot of trust in this team. This do
>>>>    beckons me to ask a follow-up question: Where is your position is
>>>>    most divergent from the other candidates? In other words: what
>>>>    makes you different? Not in terms of style, but in terms of
>>>>    content. Thanks again very much in advance to the candidates.
>>>>    Best, Niels On 08/23/2017 11:59 PM, Mike wrote: > Hi, > > I'm
>>>>    just traveling at the moment, and without access to my laptop, so
>>>>    I'll just give some quick thoughts. > > I think that public
>>>>    safety is best guaranteed through a robust and reliable global
>>>>    DNS, including reliable expectations of privacy, security, etc.
>>>>    It always chaffs me a bit when people talk about the traditional
>>>>    trade-offs between privacy and public safety, as that ignores the
>>>>    enormous overlap between the two, and the fact that technologies
>>>>    which guarantee personal privacy are also vital to our collective
>>>>    security - guaranteeing a free press, secure financial
>>>>    transactions, etc. > > Bringing this back to ICANN, I would be
>>>>    very uncomfortable with any sort of cooperative relationship
>>>>    between ICANN and law enforcement or security agencies, beyond an
>>>>    educational role in sharing info about what ICANN is about, or
>>>>    something like that. ICANN should do only what it is legally
>>>>    compelled to do, and even that should be carried out with maximum
>>>>    transparency, and with appropriate resistance (appeals) if
>>>>    confronted with overbroad or unreasonable demands. > > TL/DR Come
>>>>    back with a warrant. > > Michael Karanicolas > > > Sent from my
>>>>    iPhone > >> On Aug 21, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Niels ten Oever __wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear candidates, >> >> Would you be so kind to tell us what
>>>>    you think ICANN's role is vis a vis >> public safety? >> >>
>>>>    Thanks in advance, >> >> Niels >> -- >> Niels ten Oever >> Head
>>>>    of Digital >> >> Article 19 >> www.article19.org
>>>>    <http://www.article19.org> >> >> PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4
>>>>    A431 56C4 >> 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 -- Niels ten Oever Head of
>>>>    Digital Article 19 www.article19.org <http://www.article19.org>
>>>>    PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 __
> 
> -- 
> Niels ten Oever
> Head of Digital
> 
> Article 19
> www.article19.org
> 
> PGP fingerprint    8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4
>                     678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9

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