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Niels ten Oever <[log in to unmask]>
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Niels ten Oever <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Remmy,

Is this an absract or a concrete example?

Is this a criminal inquiry run by authorities? And how does the PII help
determine whether it is for 'public good/fraud purposes'?

Best,

Niels

On 07/06/2017 12:18 PM, Remmy Nweke wrote:
> Hi Niels
> In the cause of media activism for instance it's VIP to have a trusted
> repository to be used for verifications especially on event where a
> domain is not used for public good/fraud purposes at times it's crucial
> to do under the roof verification to ascertain those behind such and
> link that up with possible profiling of such individuals or organisation
> as the case may be in exposing such crimes or incidents.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> On 6 Jul 2017 09:54, "Niels ten Oever" <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> 
>     Can you give examples? I find that in important cases, WHOIS data is
>     always wrong, or data on sites is more reliable.
> 
>     Cheers,
> 
>     Niels
> 
>     On 07/06/2017 10:32 AM, Remmy Nweke wrote:
>     > Hi Ayden
>     >  I think WHOIS has been very useful especially in the area of cyber
>     > rights advocacy/media rights activism by ensuring and helping to
>     resolve
>     > domain related use and misuse or even on conflict claims, it's VIP to
>     > know who precisely is the owners and names behind the domains and
>     > attempt to know why and for what purpose such domains were meant
>     for at
>     > least for putting the records straight and eventual profiling.
>     > Regards
>     > Remmy
>     >
>     > On 4 Jul 2017 11:37, "Ayden FĂ©rdeline" <[log in to unmask]
>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>     > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Greetings, all-
>     >
>     >     Along with Stephanie Perrin and Wendy Seltzer, I am a part of the
>     >     ICANN GDPR Compliance Consultation Group. This group has been
>     formed
>     >     to help ICANN gather the information it needs to engage with data
>     >     protection authorities and to obtain actionable legal advice.
>     >
>     >     I committed last week to keeping the NCSG updated on the
>     activities
>     >     of the Consultation Group over the coming months.
>     >
>     >     In our first meeting, we committed to participating in a data
>     >     gathering exercise to identify the existing users of WHOIS, what
>     >     data elements they use, and for what purpose. At this time we are
>     >     not making the determination as to whether a purpose is legitimate
>     >     or illegitimate, though that call will come, or if a data element
>     >     comprises personally identifiable information. For now we are
>     simply
>     >     trying to include all user categories to get the most complete set
>     >     of data points.
>     >
>     >     We are interested in understanding how non-commercial Internet
>     >     users, who we in the NCSG purport to represent the interests
>     of, use
>     >     WHOIS. We have conducted some informal consultation among our
>     peers
>     >     and have been provided with a few use cases, but not too many.
>     It is
>     >     possible that end users do not use WHOIS widely [and that has been
>     >     the assumption that has informed previous exercises like this
>     one],
>     >     but if you, as an end user, do use WHOIS, we would be curious to
>     >     know for what purpose and which data elements you rely on. Please
>     >     share your thoughts either on-list or with me privately, if
>     you prefer.
>     >
>     >     We have a very short turnaround time for this exercise. Our next
>     >     call is this Thursday, and ICANN staff envision this entire task
>     >     being completed by next week. The time for you to provide input is
>     >     thus now. Thanks!
>     >
>     >     Best wishes,
>     >
>     >     Ayden FĂ©rdeline
>     >     linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>     <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline
>     <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>>
>     >
>     >
> 
>     --
>     Niels ten Oever
>     Head of Digital
> 
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Head of Digital

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