I'd like to add that I think it would also be very good if we would
increase the accountability of our councillors and leadership team.

I was for instance very surprised, and quite shocked frankly, when one
of our own councillors, as the only one on the GNSO, came out against
the inclusion of a commitment to human rights in ICANNs bylaws.

I do not think this represented the opinion of the NCSG, or at least
such a decision was not agreed upon.

NCSG has gained a lot of credibility, but it is also at risk of losing
it at times. Better accountability can help us to prevent that from
happening.

Best,

Niels

On 08/03/2016 04:44 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> Having served on council now for two years, I think we should consider
> better how we want to run these elections.  DO people out there really
> understand the work we do on council?  How do we want our council
> members to act?  How do we want them to discuss issues on our monthly
> policy calls?  How collaborative should the decision making be?  How do
> we do succession planning and mentoring?  These are issues that are
> fundamentally important in my view, and should be discussed during the
> campaign, not relegated to nominee's statements.
> 
> I agree with Niels and Milton that if expressions of support are
> suppressing candidates from coming forward, we need a rule against it. 
> We desperately need more people to run....there was only one contested
> seat the last time I ran, when gender balance and regional balance were
> taken into consideration.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Stephanie
> 
> 
> On 2016-08-03 10:24, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. wrote:
>> Dear Milton.
>>
>> I agree that this is a very fine procedural point, that should be
>> managed clearly by the people responsible for the process, from the
>> first mail on, so as to allow for others to consider participating.
>> Maybe it should even become a written rule of internal netiquette.
>>
>> But in the meantime, coming from a Hyperdemocratic and
>> Hyper-freedom-of-expression rights country like Costa Rica (and the
>> re-election being a possibility for some incumbents)  I done´t see
>> anything wrong in feeling the temperature of the room early on as a
>> way to recognise how hard some of them have worked in the past. We
>> might have chosen the wrong place to make this type of comments, but
>> space should be available for making them in the list anyhow. Maybe
>> just under a different heading, like “I don´t like the re-election of
>> incumbents” for example.
>>
>> Now, do we have an explicit rule as suggested by Niels and you? How
>> and where do we express our support for that rule? Should we draw a
>> redline and asked for a renewed call for the election process with the
>> new rule and forget the past? Lets be practical and move forward ASAP.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>> +506 8837 7176
>> Skype: carlos.raulg
>> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
>> On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:11, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>
>>> I second Niels's views. I have refrained from expressing any opinion
>>> about the nominations until the nominations are closed and we are
>>> discussing candidate statements. I have always done so.
>>>
>>> --MM
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>> Niels ten Oever
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:30 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: +1's and support
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Even though I think the regular display of +1's is a signal of
>>>> mutual support
>>>> and camaraderie. I have the feeling that sometimes it is drowning
>>>> out other
>>>> discussions about content on the list.
>>>>
>>>> May I also remind people that the voting happens later, so the
>>>> candidates
>>>> need your support is even more then.
>>>>
>>>> I'm greatly looking forward to the statements of the candidates.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Niels
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Niels ten Oever
>>>> Head of Digital
>>>>
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