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Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]>
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Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]>
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Ah, I still didn't read carefully enough, Elsa and Farell are also
listed wrong in that page and are now NA and EU, respectively.

That means it would be European candidates who would be at a
disadvantage here, and being North American would give no
advantage.

Let's hope I got it right this time. :-)

Cheers,

Tapani


On Dec 17 14:51, Tapani Tarvainen ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> Hi Rafik and James,
> 
> I'm happy to stand corrected (and I trust someone will fix
> that outdated page ASAP).
> 
> Anyway, that doesn't change Kaswesha's situation but it means African
> and Asia-Pacific have to be swapped in my analysis.
> 
> That is, an African candidate would be on the same line with European
> and Latin American ones but one from Asia-Pacific could not be
> selected if other competent candidates are available.
> 
> Tapani
> 
> On Dec 17 21:42, Rafik Dammak ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
> 
> > yes, that matches what I declared during the election.
> > 
> > Rafik
> > 
> > Le mar. 17 déc. 2019 à 21:33, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]> a écrit :
> > 
> > > For Council elections/selections the relevant source of truth is the GNSO
> > > SOI's and Council declarations mentioned here:
> > > https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/council
> > >
> > > Rafik Dammak (SOI) - AAPAC (AGM 2020)
> > > Elsa Saade (SOI) – NA – (AGM 2020)
> > > Tatiana Tropina (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
> > > Martin Silva Valent (SOI) – LAC (AGM 2020)
> > > Farell Folly (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
> > > Farzaneh Badii (SOI) – NA (AGM 2021)
> > >
> > > ---
> > > James Gannon
> > >
> > > On 17.12.19, 12:30, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> > > [log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi James,
> > >
> > >     My apologies if I made a mistake, but looking at the page Stephanie
> > >     pointed to, I see the regions as follows:
> > >
> > >     Africa: Rafik Dammak and Farell Folly
> > >     Asia-Pacific: Elsa Saade
> > >     Europe: Tatiana Tropina
> > >     Latin America: Martin Pablo Valent
> > >
> > >     Cf. https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg
> > >
> > >     If that's not correct then my analysis obviously needs to be adjusted
> > >     accordingly. I am aware that Rafik lives in Japan, but our rules and
> > >     precedents give some leeway for people who have ties in multiple
> > >     regions to choose which they choose to declare (I oversimplified in
> > >     saying residence is the determining factor), and I presumed the above
> > >     page to indicate Rafik has chosen to declare Africa according to his
> > >     native Tunisia.
> > >
> > >     Tapani
> > >
> > >
> > >     On Dec 17 12:03, James Gannon ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
> > >
> > >     > This doesn't match with the current declared regions of our
> > > councilors, I think it would be most appropriate for the EC to weigh in on
> > > eligibility concerns.
> > >     >
> > >     > ---
> > >     > James Gannon
> > >     >
> > >     > On 17.12.19, 06:29, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> > > [log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >     >
> > >     >     Hi James,
> > >     >
> > >     >     Yes, you are eligible, indeed in a slightly favoured position.
> > >     >
> > >     >     It's residence that counts, not country of origin. If you live
> > > and pay
> > >     >     taxes in the USA or Canada, you are North American for this
> > > purpose.
> > >     >
> > >     >     Otherwise, looking at current council composition and NCSG
> > > charter,
> > >     >     the situation is briefly like this:
> > >     >
> > >     >     * An African can only be selected if there are no other viable
> > >     >     candidates (as there already are two Africans). This is a hard
> > >     >     rule, "To the maximum extent possible", but as noted it would
> > >     >     not exclude you if you are North American resident now.
> > >     >
> > >     >     * Of two otherwise equally competent candidates, a North American
> > >     >     would be preferred over others and a woman over a man. These are
> > >     >     softer rules, "Reasonable efforts", so other qualifications could
> > >     >     be more important.
> > >     >
> > >     >     Tapani
> > >     >
> > >     >     On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:33:37PM -0600, KASWESHA (
> > > [log in to unmask]) wrote:
> > >     >     >
> > >     >     > I am currently settled in North America but I am not very sure
> > > whether I am
> > >     >     > eligible. Somebody advise.
> > >     >     >
> > >     >     > Regards;
> > >     >     >
> > >     >     > James Njoroge Gitau
> > >     >     >
> > >     >     > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Stephanie Perrin <
> > >     >     > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >     >     >
> > >     >     > > As members will have seen, Farzaneh Badii has resigned her
> > > council seat,
> > >     >     > > so it is the responsibility of the NCSG Executive Committee
> > > to select a
> > >     >     > > replacement until the next election takes place in summer
> > > 2020.  In order
> > >     >     > > to enable this, we are seeking expressions of interest in
> > > the position.
> > >     >     > > Please send your statement of interest to me, copy Maryam
> > > Bakoshi, before
> > >     >     > > the 28th of December.  For your interest, the relevant
> > > section of the
> > >     >     > > Charter concerning these circumstances is paragraph 2,
> > > section 3.2 (copied
> > >     >     > > below).  For information about the current composition of
> > > the council see
> > >     >     > >
> > > https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg.  We
> > >     >     > > appear to have representation from everywhere except North
> > > America.
> > >     >     > >
> > >     >     > > Stephanie Perrin
> > >     >     > >
> > >     >     > >
> > >     >     > > Section 3.2 para 2
> > >     >     > >
> > >     >     > > In the event that a GNSO Council Representatives is unable
> > > to finish his
> > >     >     > > or her term, the NCSG EC will appoint a temporary GNSO
> > > Council
> > >     >     > > Representative to serve until the next regularly scheduled
> > > election as
> > >     >     > > provided in Section 3.8 of the GOP.  At that time, a new
> > > GNSO Council
> > >     >     > > Representative will be elected to serve out the balance of
> > > the vacated
> > >     >     > > term, if any.
> > >     >     > >
> > >     >     > >
> > >     >
> > >     >     --
> > >     >     Tapani Tarvainen
> > >     >
> > >
> > >     --
> > >     Tapani Tarvainen
> > >
> > >
> 
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