Hi Joly,
Thank you for raising this.
The paragraph you noted is based on 2.2.1(4) in NCSG Charter, which
states that
"4. In the case of a membership-based organization, the organization
should not only be noncommercial itself, but should have a primarily
noncommercial focus, and the membership should also be primarily
composed of noncommercial members. (E.g., a chamber of commerce,
though it may be a noncommercial organization itself, and might even
have some noncommercial members, is primarily composed of commercial
organizations and has a commercial focus and would not be eligible for
membership.)"
As we have such a requirement in the charter, we need to have
something matching in the member removal procedures.
Now what exactly that means is the question. We discussed about it
and concluded roughly that the point is to exclude *formally*
non-commercial organizations that nonetheless have *de facto*
commercial purpose and mostly commercial members, such as a chamber of
commerce given as an example.
Where the line should be drawn is up to the Executive Committee to
decide whenever either such an organization applies for membership or
when an existing members' eligibility is challenged.
We do not intend to set up any general requirement for NCSG member
organizations to document their members' non-commercial status in
detail, although I guess it could come to that in a specific case.
As we have several ISOC chapters in our membership it is clear they
have been considered eligible despite that clause, and I see no
obvious reason to change that policy. The EC could of course
reconsider that either in general or in the case of a specific ISOC
Chapter, but for the time being I don't see any immediate need for
existing members to worry about that.
All members are of course welcome to express their views on this, as
well as the proposed procedure on dealing with ineligibility claims,
or even suggest changes to the charter to avoid potential problems
and ambiguities in its interpretation.
Tapani
On Sep 02 14:27, Joly MacFie ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
> As an organizational member rep (ISOC-NY) I take an interest in the
> following:
>
> 4. Organizational Member is determined to not meet eligibility requirements
> > for NCSG membership. Pursuant to NCSG’s Charter, only organizations meeting
> > the following criteria are eligible for membership in the Stakeholder Group:
> >
> > a) The organization is incorporated as a noncommercial entity (in
> > countries that have a provision in their commercial code) or, if
> > unincorporated, or if operating in a country without provisions for
> > noncommercial incorporation, that operates on a not-for-profit basis
> > primarily for noncommercial purposes
> > ,
> > and b) Be the exclusive user of at least one domain name for noncommercial
> > purposes,
> >
> > and c) Is engaged in online activities that are primarily noncommercial,
>
>
> No problem with any of that But..
>
>
> > and d) In the case of a membership-based organization, (meaning
> >
> > organized as a membership-based organization under the applicable law as
> > used in NCSG’s Charter) the organization should not only be noncommerical
> > itself, but should have a primarily noncommercial focus, and the membership
> > should also be primarily composed of noncommercial members.
>
>
> As an Internet Society Chapter we do not discriminate on the basis of, or
> even know the majority of, our members' commercial activity. However, all
> NCSG votes are taken by our (elected) board, who might well qualify, but
> are elected by the mebership..
>
> Are we, or any other ISOC Chapter, thus ineligible?
>
> I haven't looked it up. Could you clarify '
>
> organized as a membership-based organization under the applicable law as
> used in NCSG’s Charter'?
>
> joly
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please find the attached procedures for handling changes in one's NCSG
> > membership status, which is intended to formalize our EC’s operation on
> > such matters. If there are no significant concerns with these procedures,
> > they should go forward as an NCSG operating procedure in the coming weeks.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robin
> >
> >
>
>
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