> -----Original Message-----

> Before Ed came up with his comment, there had already been a comment

> drafted on the PC list (only), he posted there as a reaction to it, and while he

> could at that point have Cc'd ncsg-discuss, anybody else in PC list could have

> done it at any point just as well (or anyone not on the list but interested



That's exactly what I have been trying to say: the PC - not out of ill intent, but out of habit and perhaps a bit of laziness - is increasingly siloing itself and excluding the SG as a whole from important discussions. I understand fully how easy it is to slip into this habit, I understand that it takes an extra bit of effort to include the rest of the membership. For that to change it has to be challenged. 



> enough to follow it, after all it is publicly archived).



An enormous amount of information is "publicly archived." One could spend the rest of one's life digging it out. 

This is not the way to go. Archives are there as a record. 

In real time, it is the _obligation_ of PC members and especially chairs of important committees to _push_ the information out to the membership. 



> It's just too natural to follow up discussions wherever they are happening

> without thinking, and it does take an extra mental effort to stop and think

> with every time should I change the distribution now.



I am asking everyone on the PC, and especially chairs and Councilors, to make that extra mental effort. 

Always. 



--MM