Thanks Ayden,
I will try and input most of these comments into the doc directly and
hope they will be adressed.
Regards,
Arsene
2017-11-13 12:48 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>:
> Hi Arsene,
>
> You are welcome to propose edits to the text directly. The Google Doc is
> open for all to edit and shape, and I note that you managed to comment on
> another one roughly 30 minutes ago. As a reminder, this is just proposed
> text and of course not yet endorsed by the NCSG, so nothing is final and
> edits are still possible. That being said, if I may politely suggest you
> first read the supporting material which I linked to in my initial email, it
> might be helpful to see what it is that ICANN is requesting that we comment
> on.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ayden
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Suggested Comment - ICANN Reserve Fund
>> Local Time: 13 November 2017 10:33 AM
>> UTC Time: 13 November 2017 10:33
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> Thanks for pulling together this comment.
>>
>> I am sending here few comments as my network doesn’t allow me to work
>> on the Google doc now. I don’t have a very good background with
>> finances or budgets, but I will try to share few comments bellow.
>>
>> First, I am in total agreement with you that ICANN should not consider
>> taking away from the new gTLD Auction Proceeds funds as these should
>> not seek to cover ICANN’s operating expenses but support external
>> projects that align with ICANN’s mission. This discussion has been
>> happening in the AP WG and that was my point as well.
>>
>> “However, given the organisation’s unusual risk profile, we would
>> encourage the organisation to set a target level for the Reserve Fund
>> of a minimum of 24 months of operating expenses.”
>>
>> Is there any reason why you are requesting this, Ayden?
>>
>> If the org is failing to keep the fund to a minimum of 12 months, I
>> think it is asking too much for now (though it would be great if they
>> are able to) to ask them to keep a minimum of 24 months. I would
>> suggest this comment to focus on helping them to be able to stick and
>> ensure they remain with a minimum of 12 months as they have been doing
>> trying to do since 2007.
>>
>> “However, there are many ways in which ICANN could cut funding”
>>
>> Thanks for suggesting some ways ICANN can cut down some of its
>> expenses and call them on being more responsible with the way they
>> make expenses. Many of these suggestions are valid after a quick look
>> but need to be looked at in deep in order to ensure we all have the
>> same opinion as the NCSG.
>>
>> I do agree with a comment I read that these can be more relevant
>> suggestions with regards to the Operating Funds not the Reserve Funds.
>> Can we work on another comment in the future (not sure whether there
>> is an open comment on Operating Funds) and present these arguments
>> instead?
>>
>> I know you have personal reasons or strong opinions with regards to
>> the Fellowship program but I don’t think this is the right place to
>> present that because there is no general agreement within the NCSG on
>> what needs to be our response with regards to the Fellowship program
>> and its expenses. I am sure many of us agree that there is a need to
>> review this program though. I think this can be the subject of a
>> different discussion that needs to happen before we can present it as
>> the NCSG opinion.
>>
>> With regards to GSE expenses, I would appreciate to have a reference
>> that supports this claim or if you could expand more here on what you
>> mean because this can be seen as a pure claim with no evidences. Are
>> you saying that the GSE is making expenses for activities that are out
>> of ICANN’s remit?
>>
>> I would not like to sound like commenting on all these suggested ways
>> for ICANN to cut its expenses but I think for an NCSG comment, we may
>> need to base our current and future comments on issues we have openly
>> discussed on the list and where we seemed to have an agreement and
>> only have been waiting for an opportunity to make them public as a
>> stance.
>>
>> So, I would strongly suggest that we don’t make suggestions (unless
>> someone has other suggestions) and stick to the fact that ICANN should
>> carefully look at the way they make expenses in their operations and
>> use some of the remainder to replenish the Reserve Funds. I wish I was
>> able to provide more.
>>
>> I would like to thank you, Ayden for holding the pen here again
>> (something many of us here are not yet able to do) but I would call
>> for caution that we should not seek to use NCSG to channel personal
>> opinions. I would instead encourage whenever we have a concern or an
>> opinion over something, to raise it with the membership, discuss it
>> and then when there is an opportunity to publicly address them, then
>> we can use NCSG voice to raise them.
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>> Arsene
>>
>> 2017-11-12 14:46 UTC+02:00, Carlos Raul Gutierrez [log in to unmask]:
>>
>>> Dear Ayden,
>>> thanks a lot for this excellent draft, which by the way updated me and
>>> gave
>>> me a very good picture of the whole discussion.
>>> Based on my own experience, ICANN high dependency on a stream of fees
>>> directly related to the size of the DNS market is a problem of capture in
>>> waiting. Most entities that deal with such dynamic markets (I'm no going
>>> to
>>> use the word) tend to prefer vaccinate themselves from the illusion of an
>>> endless source of income, by developing a cost based budget first, and
>>> justifying every year its budget to the providers of income, instead of
>>> defending a TAX or cut of their business.
>>> My humble suggestion is that within your suggestion that the Board would
>>> think a little bit harder about this issue, we include the general notion
>>> of a cost based budgeting system, as an important step to reduce the risk
>>> of inflated expectations about the growth potential of the DNS market of
>>> the present tax based system. Some new gTLDs are not sustainable under
>>> the
>>> present cost structure of the ICANN Corporation, and it would be a pity
>>> to
>>> limit the innovation and openness of the DNS just because its structure
>>> is
>>> so expensive to maintain.
>>> Thanks again for your work and considering my ideas.
>>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>>> ISOC Costa Rica Chapter
>>> skype carlos.raulg
>>> +506 8837 7176
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Apartado 1571-1000
>>> COSTA RICA
>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Ayden Férdeline [log in to unmask]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have drafted a response on behalf of the NCSG regarding ICANN's
>>>> Reserve
>>>> Fund. The call for public comments and supporting documentation can be
>>>> found
>>>> here https://www.icann.org/public-comments/reserve-fund-2017-10-12-en.
>>>> The proposed comment that I have drafted is on Google Docs here
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJICv5BgHyBIo_o3twOkK0BZDyALIvZYjKXiY5s3RgI/edit?usp=sharing.
>>>> This is a rough draft; your comments will be instrumental in shaping the
>>>> final version, if the NCSG choses to submit one. But for now I welcome
>>>> your
>>>> constructive edits to the text. Thank you.
>>>> —Ayden
>>
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>>
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>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, Rudi international
>> http://www.rudiinternational.org,
>> CEO,* Smart Services Sarl http://www.smart-serv.info*, Mabingwa Forum
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>> Tel: +243 993810967
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>>
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>> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors
>> & Mexico
>> http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors)
>>
>> - AFRISIG 2016 http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/ - Blogger
>> http://tungali.blogspot.com - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles
>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en & Marrakech
>> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en
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>> - *IGFSA Member http://www.igfsa.org/ - Internet Governance - Internet
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<http://www.rudiinternational.org>*,
CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa Forum
<http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>*
Tel: +243 993810967
GPG: 523644A0
*Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo*
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<http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html>
(YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF Brazil
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors>
& Mexico
<http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors>)
- AFRISIG 2016 <http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/> - Blogger
<http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow (Los Angeles
<https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en> & Marrakech
<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/marrakech55-attendees-2016-03-14-en>
). AFRINIC Fellow (Mauritius
<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners>)*
- *IGFSA Member <http://www.igfsa.org/> - Internet Governance - Internet
Freedom.
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<http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234>) and (French
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