Right Tapani!

We will need people to keep track of document drafts emerging from other constituencies and the draft. We will need people to attend meetings and raise objections if others play tricks. Among other things 

I agree it does sound like a chicken-egg problem.  I guess the way around it is for serious volunteers to work closely and accept instructions from people like Stephanie and Farzy who are deeply involved. 

Milton L Mueller
Professor, School of Public Policy
Georgia Institute of Technology

> On Jul 9, 2018, at 13:25, Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 02:43:03PM +0000, Mueller, Milton L ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
>> 
>> We are all stretched from working on the Whois/ePDP issue. Our
>> Council members just fought off an attempt to stack the deck of the ePDP
>> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/07/03/stacking-the-deck-the-epdp-on-the-whois-temp-spec/
>> Do you have any idea how much time and work that took?
> 
> Interpreting that "you" as generic, while I only followed that fight
> from the side I have heard enough to agree it was bad. But I'm even
> more worried about the amount of work involved when the ePDP gets
> actually started. *That* will stretch NCSG resources for real.
> 
>> We feel short-handed because our opponents in these PDPs have
>> professional lawyers working almost full time on it.
> 
> Exactly. It takes a lot of time to be effective even in a regular PDP,
> and ePDP will by all accounts be much worse.
> 
>> If you want to be involved in that you need to get some experience
>> and prove some results.
> 
> That sounds like a chicken-and-egg problem, but I guess you meant one
> can and should be involved and get experience and prove one's
> commitment and ability by attending remotely before asking for travel
> slots. Which sounds like a good idea to me.
> 
> Most of the work is done remotely in any case, and anybody wanting to
> work can join the working groups they want. In case of the ePDP,
> membership is limited but if you don't fit in, you can still help
> NCSG's representatives there by working in the background. If there's
> enough interest it might even be worthwhile to set up a mailing list
> just for the purpose.
> 
> -- 
> Tapani Tarvainen