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Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]>
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Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 9 Sep 2018 19:45:50 +0300
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Dear Farzaneh,

My apologies for poor wording, I did not intend to blame you but
to offer what I thought was constructive criticism.

On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 09:22:46AM -0400, farzaneh badii ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> Well there is no doubt that the charter said the EC is in charge of
> setting membership limits.

Some, yes, but the EC can't set arbitrary limits.

There is one special case where such a limit clearly can be set (but
that case is not covered in the proposed procedures at all), and one
where it's somewhat debatable. In either case a rule that'd apply to
old members (as opposed to approving new ones) cannot be set by the EC
alone (there's a special provision for member removal procedures in
our charter).

> I don't know what you mean by legal. Under which law???

GDPR and any number of other privacy laws.

> It's nearing the end of my term and I have many more things to do,
> this is not a priority. Either you can make substantive constructive
> changes to these procedures instead of just thrashing them (by
> simply just removing the paragraph and say let's not set a limit) or
> we can leave them unapproved and forget about them.

I'm sorry if my criticism came out as trashing. But I do think you are
rushing these too much. I won't edit the text because this is not mere
word-smithing and it would be better to make the arguments in a
publicly-archived mailing list.

And I don't want to simply remove the paragraph because I think
some such rule would probably be a good thing to have, I just
want to have it done right.

> It was not done during the past chairs terms, I don't think it will
> kill us if it doesn't get approved now either nor during
> Stephanie's. I had just promised procedures during my campaign, I
> wanted to deliver what I promised but I think I have done enough

Agreed on all that. Nobody will blame you for failing such a promise,
rather you are to be commended for making the attempt. There's only so
much one person can do, and you have done a lot.

Kind regards,

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen

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