Hi Farell

Just to clarify, the NCUC Chair allocated travel slot which could not
be fully transferred to another member was the WSIS CROP slot. We
could transfer hotel but not plane ticket as it was non-refundable and
there was little time before the meeting.

This was all done via Travel Constituency.

That was the only case of not complete transfer and it was due to
emergency circumstances.

Best,

Renata

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Farell FOLLY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> It is very clear to me that GNSO Travel reallocation issues should NOT
> mainly involve NCSG Finance, also, It does not matter who or which committee
> member should travel but it is not acceptable that one can think that a
> finance staff should not be associated with something that potentially
> involves spending money or using resources (even from outside the org). I am
> not saying that Finance Committee members should travel more or be on equal
> with another group of people, but to what I know about Business
> Administration is that HR and F should work together with the Exec to ensure
> resources are allocated and spent correctly.
>
> I think that If we have to draft a travel policy, it should not only deal
> about GNSO Travel re-allocation, this is a small part of a whole. Let
> consider a case that GNSO travel slot that has been re-allocated to a member
> (a councilor of course) finally involves extra money (due to the last minute
> change), are we going to make any decision without the FC?
>
> If my memory serves me well, there was a case that the NCUC chair was not
> able to travel, and she tried to re-allocate this ICANN funding to another
> person, however, only part of the fund could be re-allocated, and the member
> had to use some extra money from the NCUC resources. That is a clear example
> that FC should be kept in the picture of such a process not be granted more
> travel but for accountability.
>
> I see here two different things that need to be separated:
> 1) to whom and how we decide to allocate GNSO travel slot (which, I agree,
> might not de facto involve the FC, and many answers have argued well about
> that), and
> 2) how we deal with in general with travels within NCSG now and for the
> long-term.
>
>
> If we did not use to do something in the past and have the possibility now
> to implement it, why not. Let’s start where we can, there is always room for
> improvement.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
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> On 8 Jul 2018, at 11:15, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> I really have no understanding of how a discussion/policy of GNSO Council
> travel reallocation (A policy function) has anything to do with the Finance
> Committe (A finance function)?
> -J
>
> On 8 Jul 2018, at 09:40, Remmy Nweke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Good morning from the city of Lagos,
>
> Dear Farzaneh
> It's not my intention to ask for more if a level playing ground to enable
> both committees have relative environment to co-exist as subjects of NCSG is
> established, if you do not create that space, especially with Finance. I do
> not understand why we expect to have improvement in a precess especially
> finance/funding without providing the enabling environment and probably
> equal opportunities.
>
> Yes, there is need for more activities on the side of Finance Committee
> which the current team is trying to address as I stated before, which must
> be done over time, but not when we are dealing with policies that guides an
> Organisation like NCSG, which often outlives most of us in NCSG. Our
> policies especially at NCSG must live beyond us more so when it's for
> internal best practices and process with a open mind.
>
> If we want the Finance Committee to work, the excuses being adduced of
> mentioning specifically in a policy document a precise committee out of the
> only two statutories does not hold. And I think that Is what the current
> policy depicts. We must all help build the finance committee we want, not
> wanting magics.
>
> I have outlined most of the responsibilities earlier which will soon be
> restated in the operational procedures, we must see beyond my bringing this
> matter of FC to the house to the steps in building and strengthening the
> Finance Committee we want.
>
> There seems to be little knowledge of what NCSG-Finance Committee is and
> should be, hence we want to correct this by engaging our community and
> stakeholders more, which cannot be done under relegation of any color.
>
> We cannot have two children and Favour one and expect both to be excitedly
> doing well or better still send a child to the market with salt and then
> send rain after him.
>
> I still appreciated those who made comments on this, it helped in bringing
> more light to the table, and until the table is bright enough for us all to
> see what is on the other side, the light is not visible enough and that is
> when transparency and accountability can be said to have improved in NCSG as
> a family.
>
> Regards
> Remmy Nweke
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:33 AM farzaneh badii <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I removed the paragraph about policy committee but I cannot change this
>> paragraph
>>
>> c.If the applicant is to be an alternate to a GNSO Councillor, he or she
>> should have an understanding of how the Council works and have observed
>> their meetings beforehand. They must provide a letter of recommendation from
>> either the Chair of the NCSG Policy Committee or a serving member of the
>> Council in his or her second term.
>>
>>
>> You suggested that there should be a letter from the Finance Committee. I
>> cannot accept that change. Remember we are talking about "alternate" to
>> council member. Their task if they get the travel slot is to go to the
>> meeting and go to council and policy meeting, has nothing to do with
>> finance.
>>
>> I think the confusion comes from the fact the travel slots that we are
>> talking in this travel policy is  the ICANN support of NCSG EC (3 slots) and
>> NCSG Council member slots (6 slots). We will need a more elaborate travel
>> policy later on for other funding allocation. but as it stands this will do.
>>
>> I made as many changes as I could and removed the paragraph about policy
>> committee . but some changes I could not make as I said above.
>>
>> Here is the doc.
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit?ts=5b40a6ef#
>>
>>
>> Farzaneh
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 6:29 PM Remmy Nweke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Farzaneh
>>>
>>> Apologies for the long email note.
>>>
>>> Like I said earlier, the essence is being deminished when you start
>>> laying emphasis on travel slot for a particular committee and leaving the
>>> other who is supposed to be conducting it's interface with ICANN.org and the
>>> community at large.
>>>
>>> Not because I got involved in Finance Committee, I have been to several
>>> ICANN meetings in past 10 years largely not on ICANN.org, outside that there
>>> is no part of the world I have not travelled to, so travel slot should not
>>> be my headache, but for  the mandate of the committee in the charter, which
>>> I browse through hitherto until this appointment, there is need to have
>>> stakeholder sessions, interface with ICANN.org, prospect funders and get
>>> feedback on fund already spent, new modalities among others and how best to
>>> evolve.
>>>
>>> it's important to ensure that the only two statutory committees of NCSG
>>> (FC and PC) have equal footing when it comes to providing enabling
>>> environment except if one decides to be mischievous, yet we expect equal
>>> results.
>>>
>>> We all must work as a larger team without deminishing any to make
>>> progress in NCSG especially on accountability and transparency.
>>>
>>> Personally I do not expect less from you as a leader of substance as far
>>> as NCSG is for now and anyone taking over thereafter.
>>>
>>> So I still stand on my demands madam chair.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Remmy Nweke
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 Jul 2018 10:36 pm, "farzaneh badii" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Remmy,
>>>
>>> For three years  being in leadership positions at ICANN, out of 9 ICANN
>>> meetings I attended only 3. I was an executive committee member an ncuc
>>> chair and ncsg chair. I was effective and carried out my tasks well and did
>>> more than many of those who actually attended meetings. Even more than some
>>> of the previous chairs. I raised overall up to 88000 usd for ncuc and ncsg
>>> from Icann for policy writing and capacity building. I managed an outreach
>>> of 7000 usd which Icann paid as a crop event again from behind my desk at 3
>>> am in the morning sometimes. My decision as ncsg chair not to seek re
>>> election is of course because of not being able to travel but that is
>>> totally different. When you are at the helm of a group unfortunately because
>>> of this "leadership" culture of ICANN and hierarchy NCSG will sometimes be
>>> without representative which is not in its interest. But when you are with a
>>> committee in more of an executive function,  You don't have to attend ICANN
>>> meetings to do your job. If you get the opportunity to go then great. But
>>> you don't have to.
>>>
>>> I think all ncsg members should know that travel slots don't bring
>>> equality in participation. Participation brings participation and
>>> inclusiveness. Hard work brings results. The result of participation can be
>>> travel slots. It should not be vice versa.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 4:09 PM Remmy Nweke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response Farzaneh,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think it would amount to not wanting to make Finance Committee improve
>>>> on its working processes and mandate to sound it off as mere “protecting the
>>>> interest of members or wanting to score travel slot” which I think negates
>>>> the purpose of the Finance Committee or probably why it has been in comatose
>>>> lately.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For your information, the role and mandate of Finance Committee as
>>>> contained in the NCSG Charter Section 2.6 is very clear and is not limited
>>>> to the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Develop and deploy a fund raising plan for the NCSG;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Work with the ICANN’s staff to determine levels of support available to
>>>> the NCSG;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its
>>>> Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. This
>>>> accounting will include the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All funds raised by voluntary membership fees or otherwise must be held
>>>> in a separate NCSG account.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Proper controls must be implemented.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regarding Expenditures, FC is to among others see that:
>>>>
>>>> Financial reports must be prepared annually and be made public.
>>>> Provide internal conflict resolution process regarding funds.
>>>> Provide the oversight of the Treasurer function.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
>>>> requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations within
>>>> the ICANN structure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For now, the present crop of FC are not people who are merely seeking
>>>> exposure, but want to contribute its quota, and thus find it unhealthy that
>>>> Finance Committee is being relegated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking at most of the responsibilities of the Finance Committee, its
>>>> stakeholders  and possible time for most of its functions and oversights
>>>> must be dealt with within the ICANN stakeholdes meeting for proper
>>>> engagement.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Finally, its in the best interest of NCSG-EC that the Finance Committee
>>>> work and works well, so as to pave way for more accountability and
>>>> transparency in our process and overtly more funding for our stakeholders.
>>>> We cannot be demanding accountability and transparency from other
>>>> stakeholders and tactically frustrate the efforts of Finance Committee
>>>> thereby making the committee look as irredeemables.
>>>>
>>>> Remmy
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
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