Yes, they are the same: Ethos and Ethos Capital are from the same group.
Even the web pages are almost identical, and several officers sit on
both. As if this would make a significant difference, but...:

http://www.ethos.co.za/
https://ethoscapital.mu/

fraternal regards

--c.a.

On 13/11/2019 22:53, James Gannon wrote:
> Ethos the South African firm is not the same firm that has aquired PIR.
> 
> ---
> James Gannon
> 
> On 14.11.19, 01:48, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Carlos Afonso" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>     Also, the official statement from ISOC mentions that Ethos Capital is "a
>     strong strategic partner that understands the intricacies of the domain
>     industry and has the expertise, experience and shared values to further
>     advance the goals of .ORG into the future".
>     
>     Just checked their two main websites (Ethos Capital and Ethos) - there
>     is no trace of former experience in dealing with domain names (the
>     acquisition of a South African service provider in 2018
>     notwithstanding). "Shared values" with a financial speculator whose aim
>     is just profit?
>     
>     But, let us face it, everyone knows that PIR was as flexible as any
>     other registry in accepting anyone with a valid international credit
>     card for .org. When the domain was auctioned, APC was the other
>     contender, with a clear proposal to keep the domain as the lair of
>     non-profits. Pity it did not win...
>     
>     fraternal regards
>     
>     --c.a.
>     
>     On 13/11/2019 15:55, Sam Lanfranco wrote:
>     > Thanks Stephanie, 
>     > While PIR said, as recently as last week to me, that PIR was not
>     > considering raising .org registration fees, 
>     > 
>     > I suspect that the new owners will feel that they are under no obligations
>     > to observe the PIR position. 
>     > Oddly, the Ethos website misspells the title of the CEO:  Peter
>     > Hayward-Butt, CHEIF EXECUTIVE OFFICER
>     > We shall see.
>     > Sam Lanfranco
>     > ---- Original Message ----From: Stephanie Perrin 
>     > To: [log in to unmask]
>     > Sent: Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 12:41 PM
>     > Subject: ISOC sells PIR
>     > 	 I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a
>     > slightly different light.  I will keep you posted as I learn more. 
>     > 
>     > 	https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acquire-Public-Interest-Registry-Internet
>     > (https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acquire-Public-Interest-Registry-Internet)
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 	Stephanie Perrin 
>     > 
>     > 	NCSG Chair
>     >   
>     > 
>     
>     -- 
>     
>     Carlos A. Afonso
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>     
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>     
> 

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