I support Kathy's position: we have to focus on distinguishing between
the compliant and non-compliant uses of the personal data in the WhoIs
database and
1) find solutions to make technically as difficult as possible the use
of the Whois Directory for non-compliant uses; and
2) sanction any non-compliant use.
Cédric
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On 7/5/17 10:32 AM, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
> +1 Niels. Further, I always thought that the first question to be asked
> under European laws is not how people use the open data, but for what
> purpose is the data collected?
>
> We now know from the work of the Registration Directory Services WG that
> the purpose of "Whois data" is to support the registration and
> maintenance of a domain name. Accordingly, why review the millions of
> ways that people may use (and misuse) domain name registration data?
> Why start with the "use cases" and not "the purpose?"
>
> Best and tx to our NCSG representatives for the time they are dedicating
> to this fast-moving group,
> Kathy
>
> On 7/5/2017 5:05 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>> That people currently use WHOIS doesn't need they _need_ to use WHOIS.
>>
>> It's important not to conflate things.
>>
>> Owndership information could for instance also be obtained through the
>> Chamber of Commerce or other company registers.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Niels
>>
>> On 07/05/2017 09:10 AM, Olévié Kouami wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> Indeed NGOs use WHOIS.
>>> As a registrant they need the use of WHOIS services. The RDS in
>>> construction have to take it info account.
>>> Cheers !
>>> Olévié
>>>
>>> Le 5 juil. 2017 06:40, "Nadira Alaraj" <[log in to unmask]
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thanks for this exercise.
>>> I use the WHOIS for one of the attempts to
>>> authenticate the registrant of the domain name in particular the
>>> national NGOs.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Nadira
>>>
>>> On Jul 4, 2017 1:37 PM, "Ayden Férdeline" <[log in to unmask]
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings, all-
>>>
>>> Along with Stephanie Perrin and Wendy Seltzer, I am a part of
>>> the ICANN GDPR Compliance Consultation Group. This group has
>>> been formed to help ICANN gather the information it needs to
>>> engage with data protection authorities and to obtain
>>> actionable
>>> legal advice.
>>>
>>> I committed last week to keeping the NCSG updated on the
>>> activities of the Consultation Group over the coming months.
>>>
>>> In our first meeting, we committed to participating in a data
>>> gathering exercise to identify the existing users of WHOIS,
>>> what
>>> data elements they use, and for what purpose. At this time we
>>> are not making the determination as to whether a purpose is
>>> legitimate or illegitimate, though that call will come, or if a
>>> data element comprises personally identifiable information. For
>>> now we are simply trying to include all user categories to get
>>> the most complete set of data points.
>>>
>>> We are interested in understanding how non-commercial Internet
>>> users, who we in the NCSG purport to represent the interests
>>> of,
>>> use WHOIS. We have conducted some informal consultation among
>>> our peers and have been provided with a few use cases, but not
>>> too many. It is possible that end users do not use WHOIS widely
>>> [and that has been the assumption that has informed previous
>>> exercises like this one], but if you, as an end user, do use
>>> WHOIS, we would be curious to know for what purpose and which
>>> data elements you rely on. Please share your thoughts either
>>> on-list or with me privately, if you prefer.
>>>
>>> We have a very short turnaround time for this exercise. Our
>>> next
>>> call is this Thursday, and ICANN staff envision this entire
>>> task
>>> being completed by next week. The time for you to provide input
>>> is thus now. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline
>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>>>
>>>
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