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Vaibhav Aggarwal <[log in to unmask]>
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Vaibhav Aggarwal <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 3 Jun 2020 04:21:58 +0530
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Dear Group, 

With your permission, it is pertinent that I respond. This is an attack on my integrity & it’s not a good precedence. 
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Thanks Carlos, Much appreciated that u have had the opportunity to work on Slander. 

Never the less - for the sake of introductions, since u did not bother to read my SOI, I run Three Not for profits - and do policy Interventions, on IT, Electronics & Governance besides being a policy advisor to a few law firms, in addition to social work that I do across India and Middle East, and Russia. 

now as far as Blade-BRAINS Group, my holding Organisation, We do consulting, and  quite a few things. But it’s a group, both, in letter & spirit. Of course we all have to earn our bread right ??
When in 2016, India hosted the ICANN - I was one of the hosts. 

There is a lot of Information about me on the internet available. Feel free to look me up and do challenge my membership here. I won’t be bogged down. It’s kool. I am capable of defending. But the NCSG will have to give me a legal notice and ask me for a statement of conflict. I have capable lawyers who will respond. Not worried.

I also was the force to stop .Indians & a few more as a NGTLD from being commercially exploited. My inputs to GAC were very strong worded. It’s a well known fact about me. This is a TLD applied by a very powerful and rich Business house called “Reliance Industries” - Look up the India response to it - GAC & u will see the opposition. Pertinent to mention that at that time it wasn’t even My Modi Gov. In play. It was the congress govt. Here. I still gotten it done. 

From social and public perspective, I have had political affiliations over the last 2 decades across India, US, Russia & Australia. Some old - Some New. 

Just to clarify for the sake of other brothers & sisters & amigos on the list, Non Commercial SG is not limited to academia & govt / semi gov members. It’s Non Commercial- In letter & Spirit. 

If u need more information, feel free to write to me at [log in to unmask] - I will respond or my EA will. 

Thanks for your time & energy. 
Godspeed.

-VA

Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. 

> On Jun 3, 2020, at 3:51 AM, Carlos Afonso <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Hi people,
> 
> I find it strange that a person from the business community is participating in the NCSG community, and for such a long time (since at least 2016). What does the community think?
> 
> In my view Mr Vaibhav should be in a stakeholder group of the business constituency, not in the NCSG/NCUC-NPOC constituencies:
> 
> https://bladebrains.com/index.php/en/
> 
> fraternal regards
> 
> --c.a.
> 
>> On 02/06/2020 16:04, Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote:
>> Dear Barina, 
>> 
>> Remember - for you and all on the list - Dissent is the form the value of any debate, not culling of the voice by threatening. I take offense that Muller threatens me on the list. As a leader, management of dissent is ur utmost priority in Chairing a Volunteer Group - U r not the only volunteer, everyone are including me, especially those who don’t use the resources of the group to further their personal agendas. 
>> 
>> I will await your action on my complaint - 2 of them. This is serious offense - either in the nature of the group or any law of the land. And if u support reckless behavior - then god be with you !
>> 
>> Regards 
>> Vaibhav Aggarwal
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. 
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Vaibhav Aggarwal <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As the chair, I do not appreciate your response. 
>>> As a Chair, I demand a Public apology from Muller for degrading the discourse and targeting me. In my opinion it is racist behavior and I feel hurt. 
>>> Please consider this as lodging a formal complaint. 
>>> 
>>> Muller or any other member, does not have a right to be disrespectful and absolute degrading in his / her Communication’s. A
>>> 
>>> Secondly, 
>>> 
>>> I have kept the discourse limited to words that make absolute sense. The are points of discussions, violations that I pointed out and so did many others and it is a healthy discussion. For eg. Quite a few members have travelled, as per rules, (we are talking of rules) why there aren’t any reports filed ? I want to know - isn’t that part of governance ? Just one point - aren’t we all talking about procedures ? 
>>> 
>>> It will be great if u would, as a Chair take responsibility & instead of writing to me - singling me out, why don’t we talk of the points I have highlighted. I’d like to keep the discourse aligned to policy intervention not schooling.
>>> 
>>> Thanks & regards
>>> -VA
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 2, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Vaibhav,
>>>> 
>>>> I find it very unfortunate to see this level of discourse here. After all the Meet the Candidates calls it was clear to us all how important it was to foster a good environment on the lists just so all our members felt ok with giving in their opinions and so on. 
>>>> 
>>>> Of course debates can get very heated at times, but it is important to operate in such lists bearing in mind the expected standards of behavior and also reminding to keep some level of civility with our colleagues. But I would also like to remind you that we are the ones responsible on whether a conversation can remain within the lines of a civil yet heated discussion or if it goes down the path of accusations.
>>>> 
>>>> So, for next time, it might be good to keep in mind that we are all volunteers here and very committed to the things we discuss. And this level of accusations wont take us anywhere. 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards, 
>>>> 
>>>> Bruna Santos
>>>> NCUC Chair
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:22 PM Mueller, Milton L <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    I have no idea what GIT is, but if you start reporting people to ICANN be assured that your message below is a clear violation of ICANN’s expected standards of behavior, so you may just end up ejecting yourself from our midst.  ____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    Cheers,____
>>>> 
>>>>    --MM____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    *From:*Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 11:49 AM
>>>>    *To:* Mueller, Milton L <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>    *Cc:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>    *Subject:* Re: NCSG Election Clarifications____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    Muller,____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    Watch it - Dont cross it - ____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    Responding to your Imbecile self is beneath me - for the sake for my respect for everyone on the list - Your talk is baseless, Senseless. And Before you open your heart to type Gibberish - here on the list - Disrespect everyone else, Look me up who I am - I will not just report you to the GIT in the USA but to ICANN also, ____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    You will have to tender an Apology in Public if I was to make it an issue. So stay the Hell in your LIMITS. ____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    You sound Racist and trust me - I have dealt with quite a few and fixed them too. ____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>>    -VA____
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    ____
>>>> 
>>>>        On Jun 2, 2020, at 8:51 PM, Mueller, Milton L <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:____
>>>> 
>>>>        __ __
>>>> 
>>>>        Vaibhav,____
>>>> 
>>>>        Stop talking nonsense. Pay attention to the facts. The problem here is not that “veterans” are picking their successors, or we are being “undemocratic.” The problem is these two things:____
>>>> 
>>>>        1)      There is a rule that requires that no less than 2 of the 6 councilors will be women,____
>>>> 
>>>>        2)      Only one woman was running for the second position our rules require be occupied by a female.____
>>>> 
>>>>        Therefore, as a simple matter of logic, that one woman will be elected.____
>>>> 
>>>>         ____
>>>> 
>>>>        This has been explained several times. What do you not understand about this? The rule is clearly stated in the charter. Unless your goal is to needlessly divide people, please make sure that all your comments about the election reflect these facts.  IF you don’t like the rule (I think it is badly formulated) work to change it.____
>>>> 
>>>>         ____
>>>> 
>>>>        Dr. Milton L Mueller____
>>>> 
>>>>        Georgia Institute of Technology____
>>>> 
>>>>        School of Public Policy____
>>>> 
>>>>        Internet Governance Project <https://internetgovernance.org/>____
>>>> 
>>>>         ____
>>>> 
>>>>         ____
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>>>>         ____
>>>> 
>>>>        *From:* Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> 
>>>>        *Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:45 AM
>>>>        *To:* Mueller, Milton L <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>        *Cc:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>        *Subject:* Re: NCSG Election Clarifications____
>>>> 
>>>>         ____
>>>> 
>>>>        Some what good but Muller - IF there are 100 people who vote - and 50 abstain - 30 Vote - Where are the ratios ? How can you call that an Election ? Where is the purpose of elections - Why to waste everybody’s time - Let Tapani or Robin and a Few Vetrans in the policy work choose who their successors will be - let it be nomination by wise people. ____
>>>> 
>>>>         ____
>>>> 
>>>>        -VA____
>>>> 
>>>>    __ __
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> */Bruna Martins dos Santos /*
>>>> 
>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> @boomartins
> 
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> 
> Carlos A. Afonso
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