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Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 3 Jun 2020 10:30:29 +0300
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I was asked if it is possible to run for multiple positions at the
same time in NCSG/NCUC/NPOC elections.

As far as I can tell there's no rule against it, but there are
better rule-readers than me here (hi Amr) so...

This is not purely theoretical, even though it is not
relevant to the present elections, and it would be good
to be clear about it well before the next round.

And this is a good time to collect all things that might
cause problems in elections, loopholes that should be closed &c.
After the elections are over nobody will have energy to think
about them.

Note, the question is about running for the positions, not about
serving in them at the same time: that is a separate issue
(interesting in its own right to be sure).

That is, one could run for several positions and, if elected
to more than one, choose one of them at that point.

And I'm not talking about whether or not it would be a good idea,
but about what current rules actually say about it. (We might
end up wanting to change them, but that's for later.)

There are a few distinct cases:

First, running for Council (or NCSG Chair) and either
NCUC EC or NPOC ExCom (or Chair of either) at the same time.

As far as I can see the three elections are formally distinct
so one could indeed run in them all.

In the past when the elections were ran at different times one could
resign from the previously-held position upon being elected to a new
one, but now when they're simultaneous the situation at least feels
different (and may even formally be in some cases).

Second, running for positions in both NCUC and NPOC.
There's clearly no rule against that, indeed there's precedent
in even serving in both at once.

Third, could one run for both Council and NCSG Chair at
the same time? I don't see any rule against that either.

Fourth, running simultaneously for NCUC EC and NCUC Chair, or NPOC
ExCom and NPOC Chair, or for multiple positions in NPOC ExCom
(theoretically possible unlike in NCUC, where they're tied to
regions).

NPOC does have a rule excluding councillors from ExCom and people from
holding multiple ExCom positions at the same time, but it is not clear
that it applies to *running* for them at the same time (arguably it
could be so read though).

NCUC doesn't seem to have such rules at all, although NCUC bylaws
implicitly prevent NCUC Chair from being a regional representative at
the same time and (less clearly) NCSG Chair as well, but I see nothing
explicit there against councillors being EC members, let alone against
running for both.

NCSG likewise: there's certainly no rule against NCSG EC members being
also constituency ExCom/EC members or Chairs (indeed it has happened
quite often in the past), but I can't see any rule against a
constituency EC member being NCSG Chair either, or even a councillor
being NCSG Chair. Even if some such limitations could be implied, I
don't see anything there either against running for multiple positions
like that, with the intent of serving only in one.

Have I missed or misread something?

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen

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