Hi Caleb,
It is my understanding (but I might be completely wrong) that the board
has already signalled that this is a GNSO matter, but yes, we should
continue pushing. We shouild also continue to push the contracted
parties.
Julf
On 15-09-2022 06:16, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
> Hi Johan,
>
> I want to take a different view that it is a GNSO issue when it comes to
> NomCom rebalancing.
>
> If GNSO has not taken a proactive approach, then let's ask the board
> except NCUC will do a rotation of the NomCom seat with NPOC then we can
> do internal constituency rebalancing.
>
> The last I checked, BC is not ready to part with the extra seat they
> have and so it's good we make our case clear enough.
>
> Caleb
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 4:40 AM Johan Helsingius <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Hi Bruna,
>
> Yes, 'volunteer burnout' has been on our agenda with them for quite
> a while, but things like the board-driven Policy Transition Program
> Pilot shows that they have listened, so I think we owe it to them
> to discuss it, and give them input and feedback.
>
> The NomCom rebalancing, on the other hand, now seems to be primarily
> a GNSO Council issue.
>
> The recycling of veterans is definitely an issue (just look at the
> most recent NomCom appointments).
>
> Julf
>
>
> On 14/09/2022 11:24, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
> > Hello, all,
> >
> > Thank you all so much for your contributions. The following
> questions
> > are the ones we submitted to Board-ops team:
> >
> > 1. /What is the Board’s take on the phenomenon of ICANN recycling
> > veterans for leadership positions. Does the Board think it’s
> > beneficial for the community to have the usual suspects rotating
> > between leadership roles of different stakeholder groups?
> How do we
> > fix this if we agree this is a problem? How does the Board
> imagine
> > its role in assisting the community to recruit more new
> blood?____/
> > 2. /Is there a possibility of rebalancing the NomCom?____/
> > 3. /What efforts are channeled to keep the people in the
> community from
> > volunteer fatigue?/
> >
> >
> > To be honest, I am a little unsatisfied with the final set of
> questions
> > because these are either a. questions that cant necessarily be
> solved by
> > the board or b. things we have addressed with them before. Topics
> like
> > 'volunteer burnout' have been on our agenda with them for more
> than just
> > one meeting and I really wouldn't like for NCSG to sound like a
> broken
> > radio repeating the same problems over and over again; added to
> that I
> > think its a real shame no one managed to suggest at least one policy
> > topic for our discussion and trust that the debate as its proposed
> > sounds a little empty.
> >
> > In case anyone would like to suggest at least one policy topic I can
> > still try to see with board-ops whether theres a chance of
> changing one
> > of our topics. But in order to do so we need yall to suggest
> something.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bruna
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 12:13 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar
> > <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sam,
> >
> > Good observations. I can understand why you put the focus on
> career
> > progression but I think significant focus needs to also be put on
> > the category where participation is heavily motivated by simply
> > doing good and personal satisfaction. Which like you suggest,
> this
> > category will neither build career capital nor will it
> provide any
> > resources for ICANN participation.
> >
> > Those in this category may have active careers, but their careers
> > are parallel to their volunteering in ICANN. Their career
> does not
> > benefit in any way from their participation in ICANN. The
> employers
> > of those in this category are often not interested in ICANN's
> work
> > and do not support them in any way, even with leave off work to
> > travel to an ICANN meeting.
> >
> > Therefore, those in this category will certainly benefit and can
> > only be in a position to volunteer if "NCSG resources were
> based on
> > participation and ICANN knowledge". I think this makes the
> > "difficult challenge" and proposed solution a bit more
> complex. Not
> > recognising that this category of volunteers also heavily
> depend on
> > ICANN resources risk eliminating them from the pool as well.
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Tomslin
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Sept 2022, 22:53 Sam Lanfranco, <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to add a couple of comments here. For years
> I ran
> > the listserv for the International Society for Third Sector
> > Research (ISTR). There is more and more research on
> volunteerism
> > and on volunteer burnout. It is a serious problem, and
> several
> > patterns and trends are clear. Older volunteers are dwindling
> > through exhaustion or simply dying. Younger volunteers
> are less
> > forthcoming, for reasons less well understood. Is that
> due to a
> > generational behavioral shift or the changing demands of
> careers
> > and volunteer work?
> >
> > Of relevance to ICANN is that volunteers are motivated by
> three
> > drivers: (1) doing good; (2) personal satisfaction; (3)
> career
> > advancement. Within ICANN’s multistakeholder model, outside
> > NCSG, a good number of ICANN participants are engaged as
> part of
> > their paid job (a form of career advancement). Inside
> NCSG young
> > participants join for all three reasons, with many seeing
> > participation to (hopefully) build career capital. This
> can be
> > particularly true for participants from areas where career
> > opportunities are limited. Outside NCSG most ICANN
> participants
> > have support for participation, either as an expense
> account or
> > an ability to cost ICANN participation against professional
> > income. Inside NCSG resource constraints are more binding and
> > ICANN support is usually essential, and more than just a
> “perk”.
> >
> > If one thinks of the elected and appointed positions within
> > ICANN as “leadership roles” my view is that the NCSG
> volunteer
> > participation challenge boils down to two things, one
> difficult
> > and one relatively easy. The difficult one is resources.
> > Resources from where (ICANN?) and to whom do they go? Looking
> > over the past decade of NCSG activity suggests that many of
> > those who are active have careers (lawyers, academics,
> > consultants) where ICANN participation builds career capital,
> > and where careers provide some resources for ICANN
> > participation. The challenge here becomes that allocating
> NCSG
> > resources (travel) based on participation and ICANN knowledge
> > favors those already best positioned to participate. The “old
> > guard” gets the perks. This may become more complicated
> as ICANN
> > seems to drift toward a narrower Technical Internet
> Governance
> > (TIG) scope of policy.
> >
> > The easier part, again in my view, would be a major
> expansion of
> > mentorship within ICANN. That could proceed in several
> ways and
> > build on what is there in ICANN already. One idea would be to
> > make elected positions include a mentorship
> responsibility, and
> > a process for selecting appropriate mentees. Mentee positions
> > would come with the additional resources to make
> participation
> > possible and meaningful. Mentee positions could also
> result in
> > greater career capital benefits, and increase the
> probability of
> > continued ICANN participation. One step in that direction
> might
> > be ICANN funding an in depth study of the experiences of
> ICANN
> > Fellowship participants (and others), both in terms of their
> > continued ICANN engagement, in terms of how ICANN work
> has fit
> > into their career progress, and in terms of the hard choices
> > they must make about volunteering.
> >
> > Lastly, I have put the focus on career progress here
> because we
> > can assume all participants are intent on “doing good”
> and that
> > “personal satisfaction” is a blend of what one does
> inside ICANN
> > and how that relates to one’s work life. I look forward
> to the
> > ideas and observations of others.
> >
> > Sam Lanfranco
> >
> > ----Original Message-----
> > From: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]
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> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> On Behalf Of Johan
> > Helsingius
> > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 5:45 AM
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> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]
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> > Subject: Re: ICANN75: NCSG Meeting with the ICANN Board
> >
> > > What level of effort is channeled to keep the people
> in the
> > community
> > > not to get tired. Same for those that have indepth culture
> > and ICANN
> > > experience that are exhausted and not actively
> participating
> > in PDP.
> >
> > Good point, Peter, I think volunteer burnout is a very
> serious
> > issue that needs to be addressed.
> >
> > Julf
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > */Bruna Martins dos Santos
> > /*
> >
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