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Johan Helsingius <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Poncelet,

I agree blaming each other is not very productive, but I do feel
we need more objectively verifiable accountability from the
people we elect to positions of responsibility, however unpleasant
it might sometimes feel.

	Julf

On 29/05/2023 22:33, Poncelet Ileleji wrote:
> Hello Colleagues,
> The overriding factual reality is uniting for the true cause, let's stay 
> on track, the disagreements will happen.  However doing the needful for 
> the right progression that's what as a body we all after.  Just my 
> 0.00001% contribution.
> 
> Peace
> 
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> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:31 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos 
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> 
>     hey all,
> 
>     As much as I appreciate this discussion being held on the list, Im
>     failing to see the reason for yet another moment of our members
>     accusing people of not being fully engaged on the matter and so on.
>     This sort of exchange is not productive and we should focus on what
>     actually matters: rebalance of nomcom.
> 
>     @Judith Hellerstein <mailto:[log in to unmask]>, I do also
>     appreciate you fishing for more information about the process and
>     trying to understand what was the real issue at the time. During
>     these debates our SG was also going through some issues regarding
>     membership, as well as a previous chair of NCUC had recently
>     resigned and we happened to have a significant group of new
>     leadership that was still trying to grasp the issues - as well as
>     our most recent engagement issues during the pandemic.
> 
>     Other than that, I wouldnt be so naive to frame the removal of
>     recommendation 10 as something thats directly connected to our
>     participation being in much small numbers. Even though the nomcom
>     rebalancing is something that would benefit GNSO as a whole since it
>     allows the group's membership to be fully portrayed at the nomcom
>     level - its not all constituencies and groups that envision this
>     issue as a true relevant one.
> 
>     But Id like to suggest we focus on what we have on the table now and
>     discuss further possibilities for chatting with the Board and
>     community about this issue.
> 
>     best,
>     B
> 
>     On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 2:06 PM Remmy Nweke <[log in to unmask]
>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>         Hi Johan and colleagues
>         It was not a private meeting.
>         I was on the review team with Raoul and we ensured it got to the
>         documentation prepared but unfortunately the larger NCSG family
>         did not see it as a priority.
>         EC meets without invites to some of us for an update if there is
>         need, especially since I left the Finance Committee, but
>         definitely it was not followed through during the comments
>         period. I remember alerting us on that but no cogent action
>         followed.
>         We actually aimed at rebalancing that could give us more slots
>         that could be distributed across NCSG, NCUC and NPOC, otherwise
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>         On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:36 PM Johan Helsingius <[log in to unmask]
>         <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>             On 29/05/2023 17:54, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
> 
>              > I am coming late to this discussion but it was not just
>             the meetings
>              > that were missed during the NomCom Review but also the
>             important
>              > meetings afterwards that led to the Board and others pulling
>              > recommendation 10 from the Public Comment.
> 
>             Were these council meetings, or some private meetings?
> 
>                      Julf
> 
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