As far as I understand, we have tried to push this through in the GNSO
council a number of times, but we have never gotten enough support.
At ICANN74, I did discuss this with a couple of people from the
contracted parties, but it appears that they are under such pressure
from the board, IPC, GAC and ALAC all painting the contracted parties
as the bad guys that they don't want to side with anything that isn't
of direct benefit to them.
Note that this is what they told me (privately), it might not reflect
actual reality.
Julf
On 15/08/2022 20:52, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
> @Bruna Martins dos Santos <mailto:[log in to unmask]> @rafik and
> @farzaneh badii <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> Here is my view on this matter.
> We cannot complain that one constituency has more representative
> influence over the other if we do not address certain issues of
> constituency representation balance over a period of time.
> Naturally, there are two sub-divisions of the non-commercial
> constituencies (NC) but NCUC has always represented the NCSG in NomCom
> and there has never been an NPOC representative on NomCom since the
> opportunity arose. ( For those who are new to ICANN and want to
> understand the conversation, please refer to the image below and please
> pay attention to the red highlighted part.)
> Now, I'm aware NPOC participated and made a strong case in NomCom
> Implementation Review Working Group for rebalancing such that we can at
> least have NPOC NomCom rep strengthing the Non-Comercial Interest but
> this report is not getting to strong fruition of what was proposed.
>
>
>
> image.png
>
> The *BC has two NomCom seats*>>>>> Where is the constituency balance
> here? Can the NCSG chair @Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> help champion this that we revisit the
> balancing structure again as some priority?
> We at least have what I call three constituencies in the NonCommercial,
> NPOC/NCUC/NCSG. We could as well have made a strong case for two
> additional seats if not one more for NPOC. That way, we can have
> stronger NonCommercial interest voting rights during debates and making
> case for NC Constituencies.
>
>
>
> image.png
>
> Lastly, can we at least consider a rotational factor for two
> constituencies given that we have only one constituency that has always
> represented the Non-Commercial in future cycles?
>
> Caleb Ogundele
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:21 PM McLaughlin, Lisa <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Thank you to all for this discussion. I think that it is best not to
> put it to rest, but rather to look at the pertinent issues in depth
> and at some length. In relation to gender diversity, I do hope that
> we are referring not only to females but also to persons across the
> LGBTQ+ spectrum.
>
> But, for now--taking "female" as standing in for "gender"--I suggest
> that it would be instructive to begin with the statement that
> "excellent female candidates...did not tick all the boxes," to
> problematize this and study which boxes were not ticked by females
> and why this is the case or perceived to be the case. That is, not
> to address why this is the case in an "objective" sense, but rather
> in an attempt to understand how it is that "females" and other
> persons of diverse ethnicities and geographic locations do not
> appear to "check all the boxes" due to forms of systemic
> discriminations in digital governance regimes. More specifically,
> the question is why might the ways in which assumptions and
> practices within the NomCom selection process favor specific and
> perhaps too narrow definitions of what constitutes notions of
> expertise and aptitudes that may favor the selection of white males
> who already have had positions of influence within the organization
> (not to point fingers at specific white males who have taken
> positions of responsibility within NCUC but perhaps at system that
> favors white masculinity in specific roles).
>
> There are too many ideological issues to study in ICANN as a whole
> within a defined period of time, and perhaps with limited resources.
> I suggest that something like a group "self-study" of the NomCom
> process has the /potential/ to help to inform the selection process
> and rebalance the membership of the constituency.
>
> This is not to suggest that a letter expressing concern with the
> lack of diversity and new leaders in NCUC is unnecessary. I am
> suggesting that, if the problem is to be addressed, more than a
> letter is necessary. We are the ones who can "fix" ourselves.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
>
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> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:20 AM Akinremi Peter Taiwo
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Thanks Kathy and other folks. It was really a hard task to
> select fewfrom over 60 applications that wasreceived.
>
> @Kaswesha Your concern is valid but you will agree with me that
> having to select few from many applications is more challenging,
> hence, need for quality, I mean quality application.
>
> @Farzaneh NomCom evaluates based on the criteria provided and
> the quality of application that was received. Each of the
> selected candidate was weighed against such criteria that was
> provided to the NomCom. My apologies as I won’t be able to go
> in-depth because of the confidential nature of the NomCom. But I
> can tell you that we have excellent female candidates but
> unfortunately did not tick all boxes.
>
> I feel the concern that rotating people in and out might not
> necessarily contribute to community vitality, I guess that goes
> beyond the remit of NomCom. This is a concern that the community
> might need to find a way to address. And for the IPC members
> being overrepresented on the GNSO council should be a concern.
> It was not part of the criteria received by the NomCom for the
> selection.
>
> Yes, I agree that NomCom need to do more outreach. But again,
> how do we address the issue of poor application and the concern
> of losing potential candidate of not reapplying for NomCom
> positions bearing in mind that NomCom has few positions to fill.
>
> @Stephenie, You will see that from the selected candidates we
> have fresh blood that have no ICANN experience and background.
> NomCom will learn from this and ensure more outreach is done.
>
> @Shreedeep In my personal opinion, we need to encourage more
> quality application. And encourage those that is applying to put
> in more effort into the application. Again, NomCom is limited
> based on the number of positions to be filed.
>
> @Gleen Diversity is key but should we slide competency under the
> carpet because of diversity. I can tell you that NomCom was very
> concerned of the diversity on the board as well as in every
> stakeholder group.
>
> @Rafik You are not mistaking. What I can only say on this is
> that NomCom was keen on competency and diversity. Reason why we
> should encourage those that is applying to submit good
> application. This is not to say that the application received
> wasn’t good. It is unfortunate that we had to select few from
> many good applications. It was a tough decision.
>
> @Shah Good question. I guess this might be to the broader ICANN
> ecosystem to answer and see how to motivate experience folks to
> apply for GNSO, ATLARGE, ccNSO positions.
>
> @Bruna. Thanks for raising that, it will be communicated. It was
> sad for NomCom for not seeing female made it to the board. I am
> sure this would be address going forward.
>
> I would like to thanK every person that responded. It clearly
> shows our interest in helping ICANN to get better especially
> that of NomCom process. I am pressed to divulge more
> information, but I am also constrained by the NomCom
> confidentiality.
>
> I hope you all understand.
>
>
> Apologies for the typo.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:17 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> Hello, all,
>
> I am sorry to be joining this thread later but I happen to
> agree with Farzaneh that its really unfortunate that we did
> not have any female board appointee and to also see the
> regional diversity shrinking as pointed out by Rafik. I
> understand that other parts of the world might have had to
> change thair focus and work perspectives during the pandemic
> and even scale down their engagement with ICANN but thats no
> excuse for the org to continue experiencing a board
> constellation that is nowhere near gender parity - and
> speaking as a female member of the community leadership, i
> really hoped that the NomCom had this in mind.
>
> Do we think it would be the case of writing a letter or
> asking for a meeting with NomCom in one of the upcoming
> meetings ? id be happy to help facilitate.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
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> Dear colleagues,
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> I am happy to let you know that the Nomcom selection
> has been finally published on the website. Below are
> the people selected to ICANN leadership positions to
> begin their term in September 2022.
> *
> *
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> Maarten Botterman
> Europe
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> Christopher Chapman
> Asia, Australia, Pacific Islands
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> Sajidur Rahman
> Asia, Australia, Pacific Islands
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> *Public Technical Identifiers Board of Directors*
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> Europe
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> North America
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> Tommi Karttaavi
> Europe
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> *Country Code Names Supporting Organization Council*
> Olga Cavalli
> Latin America and the Caribbean
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> *Generic Names Supporting Organization Council*
> Anne Aikman-Scalese
> North America
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