Hi Bruna,
Apologies for the delay.
Can we ask about when the next HRIA for ICANN Org is scheduled? (As this is a board/ Org issue)
Best Regards,
Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
> On Sep 14, 2022, at 12:40, Johan Helsingius <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hi Bruna,
>
> Yes, 'volunteer burnout' has been on our agenda with them for quite
> a while, but things like the board-driven Policy Transition Program
> Pilot shows that they have listened, so I think we owe it to them
> to discuss it, and give them input and feedback.
>
> The NomCom rebalancing, on the other hand, now seems to be primarily
> a GNSO Council issue.
>
> The recycling of veterans is definitely an issue (just look at the
> most recent NomCom appointments).
>
> Julf
>
>
>> On 14/09/2022 11:24, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:
>> Hello, all,
>> Thank you all so much for your contributions. The following questions are the ones we submitted to Board-ops team:
>> 1. /What is the Board’s take on the phenomenon of ICANN recycling
>> veterans for leadership positions. Does the Board think it’s
>> beneficial for the community to have the usual suspects rotating
>> between leadership roles of different stakeholder groups? How do we
>> fix this if we agree this is a problem? How does the Board imagine
>> its role in assisting the community to recruit more new blood?____/
>> 2. /Is there a possibility of rebalancing the NomCom?____/
>> 3. /What efforts are channeled to keep the people in the community from
>> volunteer fatigue?/
>> To be honest, I am a little unsatisfied with the final set of questions because these are either a. questions that cant necessarily be solved by the board or b. things we have addressed with them before. Topics like 'volunteer burnout' have been on our agenda with them for more than just one meeting and I really wouldn't like for NCSG to sound like a broken radio repeating the same problems over and over again; added to that I think its a real shame no one managed to suggest at least one policy topic for our discussion and trust that the debate as its proposed sounds a little empty.
>> In case anyone would like to suggest at least one policy topic I can still try to see with board-ops whether theres a chance of changing one of our topics. But in order to do so we need yall to suggest something.
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 12:13 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> Hi Sam,
>> Good observations. I can understand why you put the focus on career
>> progression but I think significant focus needs to also be put on
>> the category where participation is heavily motivated by simply
>> doing good and personal satisfaction. Which like you suggest, this
>> category will neither build career capital nor will it provide any
>> resources for ICANN participation.
>> Those in this category may have active careers, but their careers
>> are parallel to their volunteering in ICANN. Their career does not
>> benefit in any way from their participation in ICANN. The employers
>> of those in this category are often not interested in ICANN's work
>> and do not support them in any way, even with leave off work to
>> travel to an ICANN meeting.
>> Therefore, those in this category will certainly benefit and can
>> only be in a position to volunteer if "NCSG resources were based on
>> participation and ICANN knowledge". I think this makes the
>> "difficult challenge" and proposed solution a bit more complex. Not
>> recognising that this category of volunteers also heavily depend on
>> ICANN resources risk eliminating them from the pool as well.
>> Warmly,
>> Tomslin
>> On Fri, 2 Sept 2022, 22:53 Sam Lanfranco, <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> I would like to add a couple of comments here. For years I ran
>> the listserv for the International Society for Third Sector
>> Research (ISTR). There is more and more research on volunteerism
>> and on volunteer burnout. It is a serious problem, and several
>> patterns and trends are clear. Older volunteers are dwindling
>> through exhaustion or simply dying. Younger volunteers are less
>> forthcoming, for reasons less well understood. Is that due to a
>> generational behavioral shift or the changing demands of careers
>> and volunteer work?
>> Of relevance to ICANN is that volunteers are motivated by three
>> drivers: (1) doing good; (2) personal satisfaction; (3) career
>> advancement. Within ICANN’s multistakeholder model, outside
>> NCSG, a good number of ICANN participants are engaged as part of
>> their paid job (a form of career advancement). Inside NCSG young
>> participants join for all three reasons, with many seeing
>> participation to (hopefully) build career capital. This can be
>> particularly true for participants from areas where career
>> opportunities are limited. Outside NCSG most ICANN participants
>> have support for participation, either as an expense account or
>> an ability to cost ICANN participation against professional
>> income. Inside NCSG resource constraints are more binding and
>> ICANN support is usually essential, and more than just a “perk”.
>> If one thinks of the elected and appointed positions within
>> ICANN as “leadership roles” my view is that the NCSG volunteer
>> participation challenge boils down to two things, one difficult
>> and one relatively easy. The difficult one is resources.
>> Resources from where (ICANN?) and to whom do they go? Looking
>> over the past decade of NCSG activity suggests that many of
>> those who are active have careers (lawyers, academics,
>> consultants) where ICANN participation builds career capital,
>> and where careers provide some resources for ICANN
>> participation. The challenge here becomes that allocating NCSG
>> resources (travel) based on participation and ICANN knowledge
>> favors those already best positioned to participate. The “old
>> guard” gets the perks. This may become more complicated as ICANN
>> seems to drift toward a narrower Technical Internet Governance
>> (TIG) scope of policy.
>> The easier part, again in my view, would be a major expansion of
>> mentorship within ICANN. That could proceed in several ways and
>> build on what is there in ICANN already. One idea would be to
>> make elected positions include a mentorship responsibility, and
>> a process for selecting appropriate mentees. Mentee positions
>> would come with the additional resources to make participation
>> possible and meaningful. Mentee positions could also result in
>> greater career capital benefits, and increase the probability of
>> continued ICANN participation. One step in that direction might
>> be ICANN funding an in depth study of the experiences of ICANN
>> Fellowship participants (and others), both in terms of their
>> continued ICANN engagement, in terms of how ICANN work has fit
>> into their career progress, and in terms of the hard choices
>> they must make about volunteering.
>> Lastly, I have put the focus on career progress here because we
>> can assume all participants are intent on “doing good” and that
>> “personal satisfaction” is a blend of what one does inside ICANN
>> and how that relates to one’s work life. I look forward to the
>> ideas and observations of others.
>> Sam Lanfranco
>> ----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Johan
>> Helsingius
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 5:45 AM
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>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: ICANN75: NCSG Meeting with the ICANN Board
>> > What level of effort is channeled to keep the people in the
>> community
>> > not to get tired. Same for those that have indepth culture
>> and ICANN
>> > experience that are exhausted and not actively participating
>> in PDP.
>> Good point, Peter, I think volunteer burnout is a very serious
>> issue that needs to be addressed.
>> Julf
>> --
>> */Bruna Martins dos Santos
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