Hi Poncelet,
I agree blaming each other is not very productive, but I do feel
we need more objectively verifiable accountability from the
people we elect to positions of responsibility, however unpleasant
it might sometimes feel.
Julf
On 29/05/2023 22:33, Poncelet Ileleji wrote:
> Hello Colleagues,
> The overriding factual reality is uniting for the true cause, let's stay
> on track, the disagreements will happen. However doing the needful for
> the right progression that's what as a body we all after. Just my
> 0.00001% contribution.
>
> Peace
>
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> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:31 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> hey all,
>
> As much as I appreciate this discussion being held on the list, Im
> failing to see the reason for yet another moment of our members
> accusing people of not being fully engaged on the matter and so on.
> This sort of exchange is not productive and we should focus on what
> actually matters: rebalance of nomcom.
>
> @Judith Hellerstein <mailto:[log in to unmask]>, I do also
> appreciate you fishing for more information about the process and
> trying to understand what was the real issue at the time. During
> these debates our SG was also going through some issues regarding
> membership, as well as a previous chair of NCUC had recently
> resigned and we happened to have a significant group of new
> leadership that was still trying to grasp the issues - as well as
> our most recent engagement issues during the pandemic.
>
> Other than that, I wouldnt be so naive to frame the removal of
> recommendation 10 as something thats directly connected to our
> participation being in much small numbers. Even though the nomcom
> rebalancing is something that would benefit GNSO as a whole since it
> allows the group's membership to be fully portrayed at the nomcom
> level - its not all constituencies and groups that envision this
> issue as a true relevant one.
>
> But Id like to suggest we focus on what we have on the table now and
> discuss further possibilities for chatting with the Board and
> community about this issue.
>
> best,
> B
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 2:06 PM Remmy Nweke <[log in to unmask]
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> Hi Johan and colleagues
> It was not a private meeting.
> I was on the review team with Raoul and we ensured it got to the
> documentation prepared but unfortunately the larger NCSG family
> did not see it as a priority.
> EC meets without invites to some of us for an update if there is
> need, especially since I left the Finance Committee, but
> definitely it was not followed through during the comments
> period. I remember alerting us on that but no cogent action
> followed.
> We actually aimed at rebalancing that could give us more slots
> that could be distributed across NCSG, NCUC and NPOC, otherwise
> we redefine how it rotates among the NCSG community.
> At a time we met weekly until things got well underway.
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> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:36 PM Johan Helsingius <[log in to unmask]
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> On 29/05/2023 17:54, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
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> > I am coming late to this discussion but it was not just
> the meetings
> > that were missed during the NomCom Review but also the
> important
> > meetings afterwards that led to the Board and others pulling
> > recommendation 10 from the Public Comment.
>
> Were these council meetings, or some private meetings?
>
> Julf
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