Hi,
Talking about limiting deciding membership but not participation. I
think that is the compromise we drew.
Since the ICG is supposed to just coordinate the work that the 3 groups
do, the CWG needs to do work and present recommendations to the
chartering groups GNSO, ALAC, SSAC etc... and they have to make
decisions to pass on to you all.
avri
On 27-Jul-14 02:16, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Avri
> Because the ICG is already a limited group with fixed numbers of "representatives" of different stakeholder groups, why can't the CCWG be more like an open working group? I understand the concerns about imbalance in representation, on the other hand, I think limiting access to a few people will prevent ideas from being brought into the process and may provide a false consensus.
> Is the CCWG still talking about limiting participation in this way?
>
> --MM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:42 AM
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> Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Fwd: [] Draft Agenda Meeting Monday 28 July 2014, 13.00 UTC - CWG on IST
>
> Hi,
>
> Attached is the agenda for the charter drafting team's next meeting and the draft chart for the ICANN Cross Community WG on the IANA Stewardship Transition
>
> avri
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Draft Agenda Meeting Monday 28 July 2014,
> 13.00 UTC
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 13:40:52 +0000
> From: Bart Boswinkel <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
> Dear all,
> Please find included the draft agenda for the DT meeting Monday 28 July,
> 13.00 UTC.
> Kind regards,
> Bart
>
> *Draft Agenda*
>
> 1. Welcome and roll-call
> 2. Confirmation of meeting notes and action items (included in Annex A) 3. Timeline Approval of charter and call/appointment of volunteers WG
> (In order to adopt charter in time, organize membership of the WG
> itself and have a first full-blown face to face meeting in LA, the
> draft charter needs to be completed by 14 August, order of approval
> will be ccNSO( 21 August), ALAC ( 26 August), SSAC ( 2 September)
> and GNSO ( 4 September) , see Annex B)) 4. Timelines and coordination with ICG 5. Run-through latest version of draft charter 6. AOB 7. Closure
>
>
> *Annex A Meeting notes and action items DT meeting 21 July* */Notes / Action Items 21/7/*
>
> * ICG timeline is still tentative and will need to be further
> discussed and considered by ICG - issues such as public comment and
> consultation has not been factored in
> * Outreach / education needed on how naming relationship with IANA
> differs from other communities which may also be reflected in
> proposals that will eventually be submitted
> * Not the role of the ICG to develop proposals or choose from
> competing proposals according to charter
> * Draft timeline does not allow for resolution of possible issues or
> testing, incl. no transition window
>
> /*Composition of ccWG*/
>
> * Members (from chartering organizations)- consider keeping it
> relatively small to ensure being able to make progress (min. 2, max
> 3-5 from each chartering organization). Observers - consider leaving
> it open (can participate in conversations, but not responsible for
> getting the work done).
> * SO/AC/SG/C should consider opening up their processes so that others
> interested could also join as members who are not necessarily formal
> members of SO/AC/SG/C
> * Should this CWG redirect any requests from other communities to
> participate to their respective groups?
> * Proposal to have chartering organizations have min. 2, max of 5 of
> representatives on the CWG. Open to observers from all communities.
> Make CWG operations as transparent and open as possible for all,
> both with regard to F2F as well as online meetings.
> * Observers can provide input, but should decisions need to be made,
> only named members can provide input at that stage. - make sure to
> clarify this in the charter
>
> */Public consultations/*
>
> * At least one, if not two public comment forums
>
> /*Involvement of the GAC*/
>
> * Reach out to the GAC and re-invite them (noting renewed committment
> to participate in community efforts following increase in GAC
> membership in ICG)
>
> /*Development of workplan and timelines*/
>
> * Consider how to provide feedback to ICG on timeline (end of year
> deadline may not be feasible)
> * Consider having input ready following ICANN meeting in Marrakech as
> a possible alternative - what are other possible milestones in
> interim timeframe? Consider providing that feedback to ICG.
> * Should work on development of charter be done in parallel with
> initial work of CWG or does charter need to be approved first? Might
> be difficult for CWG to commence without charter nailed down. Maybe
> some of the administrative elements could be commenced earlier, but
> the substantive work can only begin once the charter has been approved.
> * Staff to develop draft timeline for public consultations by next
> week's meeting
>
> /*Charter*/
> (Edits in real time)
>
> * The focus is on names but will not be limited exclusively to names.
> * Further comment on email list:
> o Accountability
> o Role of Maintainer
>
>
> *Annex B Charter Approval Timelines*
> /*Possible timing for GNSO Council consideration / adoption of charter:*/
>
> * 4 September GNSO Council meeting - motion & charter would need to be
> submitted by 25 August at the latest to be considered
> * 25 September GNSO Council meeting - motion & charter would need to
> be submitted by 15 September at the latest to be considered
> * 15 October GNSO Council meeting (LA meeting) - motion & charter
> would need to be submitted by 5 October at the latest to be considered
>
>
> /*Possible timing for ccNSO consideration:*/
>
> * 21 August
> * 25 September
> * 21 October ( LA meeting)
>
>
> In case necessary e-mail vote (will take one week to vote)
>
> Secondly, call for volunteers will take 3 weeks (call-for volunteers 1-2 weeks, appointment by Council through email approval)
>
> /*Possible timing for ALAC consideration:*/
>
> * The deadlines for the ALAC (after one week's review by the At-Large
> Ad-hoc WG on the Transition of US Government Stewardship of the IANA
> Function WG) are:
> * 26 August ALAC meeting - motion & charter would need to be submitted
> to the ALAC by 22 August at the latest to be considered and to
> At-Large Ad-hoc WG on the Transition of the US Government
> Stewardship of the IANA Function WG by 15 August)
> * 23 September ALAC meeting - motion & charter would need to be
> submitted to the ALAC by 19 September at the latest to be considered
> and to At-Large Ad-hoc WG on the Transition of the US Government
> Stewardship of the IANA Function WG by 12 September)
>
>
> /*Possible timing for SSAC consideration / adoption of charter:*/
>
> * 16-18 September SSAC Workshop - motion & charter would need to be
> submitted by 02 September at the latest to be considered
> * 14 October SSAC meeting (LA meeting) - motion & charter would need
> to be submitted by 30 September at the latest to be considered
> * 13 November SSAC meeting - motion & charter would need to be
> submitted by 30 October at the latest to be considered
>
>
>
>
>
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