My dear Friend,
I see nothing against the campaigns or any individual in this list ready
to support them in Milton´s mail.
BUT, as part of the NCSG, both NCUC and NPOC are supposed to be doing
policy work for the DNS <period>. NPOC should not be competing with the
CWG on IG or regional ALS. NPCO should be doing its part in ICANNs
policy work together with NCUC and all other constituencies of the the
GNSO, BECAUSE there is a LOT OF WORK PENDING. WE really have to get work
done ASAP.
If the initiatives you suggest are not focused on the DNS policy
initiatives, but on broader objectives, then they can be supported by
the ongoing (and never-ending) CWG on Internet Governance. They can also
find support in AFRALO because of their regional impact.
My two NPOC cents, but then again some people in NPOC prefer broader IG
work than the tedious policy work……..
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
+506 8837 7176
Skype: carlos.raulg
Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
On 23 Apr 2016, at 6:11, Olévié Kouami wrote:
> Hi !
>
> +1 @Milton.
> IMHO, in NCUC vision this kind of campaign could be supported only by
> individuals.
>
> We now have similar campaign in an ongoing agenda in Africa be whole
> such
> as the FastAfrica week (from 1 - 7 May 2016)
> https://webwewant.org/fast-africa/
>
> And before this :
> African Declaration of Human Rights on Internet
> http://africaninternetrights.org/
>
> etc.
>
> Dearest all,
>
> I wanted to rebound on MM reaction on this thread to erase once again
> the
> old debate on NCUC vs NPOC in the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group. I
> finally learnd that the debate was before year 2011, when the NPOC
> came
> into birth in June 2011.
>
> The NPOC will celebrate it's 5 years old in June.
>
> So, I have a question on particuliarly this action/topic for the NCSG
> leasdership : isn't that, this kind of campaign is related to a
> Not-for-Profit concerns specifically mostly than fo a NC Users ?
>
> As so, IMHO, NPOC as the Not-for-Profit organizations Constituency
> (like
> AFRICA 2.0) could easily endorse it as a constituency.
>
> Please, It's my humble opinion. But I need to have more clarification
> about
> this problem since I hace join NCSG and NPOC after it birth.
>
> Please, give me more light on this topic few days before the NPOC
> celebration of it's 5 years old ?
> T
>
> 2016-04-21 23:14 GMT+01:00 Mueller, Milton L <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Grace
>> As far as I know we have not endorsed anything as NCUC - but if we
>> have, I
>> was against it at the time. 😉
>> My concern is that this seemingly innocuous issue sets a precedent
>> and
>> before you know it we get 20 requests per year to endorse campaigns
>> and
>> causes that are not related to our actual scope of policy making
>> authority.
>> Some of those issues might divide us, leading to long debates that
>> detract
>> from our ability to do the things we are supposed to do.
>>
>> I see potential for a huge time waste. It's not like we have too
>> little
>> to do
>>
>> So: publicity among and endorsements by NCUC members, Yes. Formal
>> endorsement by NCUC, No.
>>
>> Milton L Mueller
>> Professor, School of Public Policy
>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2016, at 13:57, Grace Githaiga <[log in to unmask]
>> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Deserves support. Highly recommended. Has NCUC not previously
>> supported
>> non domain issues that are internet related?
>>
>> Rgds
>> Grace
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 13:48:21 -0400
>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Invitation to join the #Internet4All campaign
>> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> Yes , +1 and Definitely!
>>
>> This is a good initiative worthy of our support!
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Karel
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>>
>>> On Apr 20, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G.
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> @Milton +1
>>>
>>>
>>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>>> +506 8837 7176
>>> Skype: carlos.raulg
>>> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
>>> On 20 Apr 2016, at 10:42, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree, NCUC/NCSG are appropriate vehicles for publicizing these
>> initiatives among civil society organizations/individuals, and many
>> of its
>> members may be interested in joining in, but #Internet4All does not
>> seem to
>> be a domain name policy issue and I think we had better stick to our
>> basic
>> mission.
>>>>
>>>> --MM
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> James Gannon
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 12:26 PM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Invitation to join the #Internet4All campaign
>>>>>
>>>>> Just on this point I hope that as this seems to be an
>>>>> infrastructure
>> related
>>>>> campaign.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still reading about it at the moment but my gut reaction is that
>>>>> this
>> may be
>>>>> more appropriate for individual NCUC members and organisations to
>>>>> endorse?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20/04/2016, 17:12, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Carlos Raúl
>>>>> Gutiérrez
>> G."
>>>>> <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is ICANN (regional) staff participating in this activity? Could
>>>>>> also
>> be
>>>>>> part of the information we may need for a qualified opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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