I hereby volunteer to be one of the election process geeks.

David

On 21 Jun 2014, at 4:13 pm, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks Rudi for accepting the general principle that we need a procedure
before we can move on.

I think we need to

0. inform the CSG that enough silliness lets define a procedure.

1. get a group of election process geeks from both NCSG and CSG with
Staff assistance (perhaps even the Ombudsman if we need him) to work
together to propose a process that both NCSG and CSG can accept. And I
do not mean a process for 2014, but a process for future elections as well.

2. after both CSG and NCSG approve of the process then we send it the
GNSO Council for vetting. I don't think they need to approve it, but
they are to be notified and I suppose given time to comment.

3. after all is said and done, then - and only then - we hold whatever
election that process determines should be held.

We are already late, but instead of more adhocery lets get a process
built and agreed.

avri


On 21-Jun-14 15:58, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
Hi Avri,

I concur to your proposal. Not having a decent procedure, makes it very
difficult to start a process that can be accepted AND respected by all
parties concerned and involved. Without an accepted procedure there will
always be discussions and lack of consensus on the way forward. During
the PC NCSG meeting in Singapore we initiated a first concept of
procedure, but did not finalize the whole procedure. I would suggest we
take this point up in the next PC NCSG meeting as a priority of work to
accomplish.

Rudi Vansnick
NPOC chair Policy Committee
NPOC treasurer
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Op 21-jun.-2014, om 15:49 heeft Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]
<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> het volgende geschreven:

Hi,

At this point, I think we are starting to enter silliness mode about all
of this.  The stress of the issue is becoming palpable with people
running around lobbying to and fro.

One of the sources of this is that the NCPH (Non Contracted Party's
House that is NCSG + the CSG + NCA (NomCom Appointee)) has never
submitted its procedures for electing a Board members to the council as
required by the GNSO Operating Procedures. So the whole thing is being
done AdHoc, and is a wee bit farcical.  Perhaps we should do that before
we do anything else.

Why don't we decide on a proper process for electing, one that can
actually terminate in a decision to elect, thus allowing us actually to
conduct a legitimate election for a board seat.

I have attached the relevant ByLaws and Procedures text below.


avri


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by-laws

6. The GNSO shall make selections to fill Seats 13 and 14 on the ICANN
Board by written ballot or by action at a meeting. Each of the two
voting Houses of the GNSO, as described in Section 3(8) of this Article,
shall make a selection to fill one of two ICANN Board seats, as outlined
below; any such selection must have affirmative votes compromising sixty
percent (60%) of all the respective voting House members:

  a. the Contracted Party House shall select a representative to fill
Seat 13; and

  b. the Non-Contracted Party House shall select a representative to
fill Seat 14

Election procedures are defined in the GNSO Operating Procedures.

Notification of the Board seat selections shall be given by the GNSO
Chair in writing to the ICANN Secretary, consistent with Article VI,
Sections 8(4) and 12(1).


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gnso operating procedures

2.4.3 Detailed Election Procedures

Each House is responsible for establishing its own internal procedures
for nominations, interviews, voting, and candidate selection; however,
those processes must be documented and forwarded to the GNSO Council for
inclusion as ANNEXES to the GNSO Operating Procedures. If a House
subsequently elects to alter its procedures, such amendments must be
submitted to the GNSO Council before becoming effective so that the
procedures accurately reflect the actual processes and activities
performed by each House in selecting its candidate.



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