Thanks Robin,

We had good teamwork going in an NC skype chat during the meeting.  I
think we're seeing real benefit from streaming audio live as the calls
take place, and join you in inviting others to join, particularly for
the Dakar meeting.

It's great that we ware able to support the registrars and to get an
explicit consideration of free expression into the staff issues report.
We want to makes sure that cooperation with law enforcement doesn't
invite censorship or abuse of law enforcement powers.

--Wendy


On 10/07/2011 10:38 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
> I should also point out that Rafik Dammak first raised this Freedom of Expression issue with registrars dealing with LEA from countries like Iran.  Thanks, Rafik!  
> 
> So we've got some great teamwork happening on the GNSO Council right now for NCSG.  Non-commercial users have never been stronger and I'm really excited about our next year.  :-)
> 
> Best,
> Robin
> 
> 
> On Oct 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
> 
>> On a related note, I wanted to say "GREAT WORK!" to GNSO Councilor Wendy Seltzer for amending motion 3 to include an impact analysis for freedom of expression.  Thanks, Wendy!
>>
>> These GNSO Council meetings can be a fascinating listen and are a good way to see how Council operates.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>
>>> Debbie,
>>>
>>> I listened to the audio of yesterday's GNSO Council call and was surprised that you broke with all the NCSG GNSO Councilors and instead voted with the Intellectual Property Constituency (IPC) against Motion 3 which deals with providing law enforcement assistance on addressing criminal activity (at about 1 hr).  The IPC stated it would vote against the motion because it did not give law enforcement enough of what it wanted (i.e. it was "too soft" and didn't collect enough info on people).  
>>>
>>> Would you be willing to explain to the NCSG why you voted with the IPC instead of the NCSG (and the rest of the GNSO Council) on this issue (Motion 3) in yesterday's GNSO Council Meeting?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>> Please find the MP3 recording of the GNSO Council teleconference, held on Thursday, 6 October 2011 at:
>>> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-council-20111006-en.mp3
>>>  
>>> on page
>>> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct
>>>
>>> Agenda Item 5: Law Enforcement assistance on addressing criminal activity (10 minutes)
>>>
>>> A motion is being made to recommend action by the ICANN Board with regards to addressing Internet-based criminal activity.
>>>
>>> Motion deferred from 22 September Council meeting
>>>
>>> Refer to motion: 3 
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+06+October+2011
>>>
>>> 5.1 Reading of the motion (Tim Ruiz)
>>> 5.2 Discussion
>>>
>>> 5.3 Vote
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IP JUSTICE
>>> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>>> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> IP JUSTICE
>> Robin Gross, Executive Director
>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
>> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: [log in to unmask]
>>
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> 
> IP JUSTICE
> Robin Gross, Executive Director
> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: [log in to unmask]
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