Hi,

Since this note is in the ICANN context, 

One glaring problem with the proposal is that he did not consult ICANN before deciding ICANN was going to do this.  Is this the result of a bottom-up process in ICANN?  Did the Board get a vote on the initiative?

Now this may be one of those cases were a lot of people are willing to give him a pass because they agree with this decision, but it is becoming a very bad habit of his.

I might note that some in the IETF are having the same issue with the Chair  of the IAB having signed the Montevideo statement apparently without consulting the IAB.

avri

On 10 Oct 2013, at 13:11, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:

> Dear compa McT,
> 
> You being a rigorous techie, maybe you will not change your logical
> view... :) And I understand there is a lot of people in all sectors who
> feel disturbed by the emerging presence of Brazil and its concrete
> proposals to finally move on.
> 
> At the very beginning Fadi describes the motivation -- Rousseff's
> statement at the UN, her clear adherence to the basic principles most of
> civil society defends (which she has repeated several times in her radio
> program and her twitter @dilmabr), and her proposal to build a planetary
> framework of rights. This did not come out of the blue, from a meeting
> of IP addressers in a wonderful city called Montevideo. Do you think
> Fadi just dropped by the presidential door in Brasilia, knocked and
> entered to sell that proposal? :)
> 
> Anyway, it is relevant to understand that this is not a proposal for yet
> another Icann meeting, or a reedition of the UN chatting space called
> IGF, as both Dilma and Fadi made it very clear. It is a major
> achievement that that motivation brought Icann to colead this effort
> jointly with BR.
> 
> All the more so because, as you know, there are strong sectors within
> the government who would love to bring the root-zone to the purview of
> the ITU, who hate Icann, who do not like the pluriparticipative model of
> governance we defend, and who are basically associated with the
> transnational telecom oligopoly which controls the main networks in BR.
> Dilma is courageously up against a huge wall here, to defend those
> principles, and receiving Fadi and emerging from the meeting with thar
> proposal was a major political milestone for her in those internal
> disputes as well.
> 
> [] fraterno
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, McTim wrote:
>> At 55 seconds in, Fadi says:
>> "Her Excellency President Rousseff has accepted our invitation that we
>> hold next year a Global Summit"
>> 
>> Seem fairly clear to me.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> McT, maybe you should watch the video a few times more... :)
>>> 
>>> --c.a.
>>> 
>>> On 10/10/2013 09:57 AM, McTim wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:50 PM, michael gurstein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> Why so pessimistic and cynical everyone.. I may be wrong but this isn't just
>>>>> about ICANN, although hats off to Fadi for getting this going and putting
>>>>> that into play…
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not pessimistic or cynical.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I would be extremely surprised if the Pres. of Brazil is going to invite
>>>>> the world to Rio in April next year to discuss names and numbers. Rather my
>>>>> reading is that she is by-passing the quite evident log-jam at the ITU, the
>>>>> frivolities of the IGF, the now discredited "Internet Freedom" crusade and
>>>>> the status quo which it was intended to cast into concrete errr… (non) rules
>>>>> and regs.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It appears to me, after watching the video again several times that it
>>>> is ICANN (and I assume the rest of the Montevideoans) that are
>>>> spearheading this.  In other words the idea of the Summit comes from
>>>> the T&A folks, not Brasilia.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>