Hi all,
I attach the PDF of Helsinki's Cross-Community Session on Charter for
the CCWG on Auction Proceeds (June 28, 2016), for your covenience. I had
the opportunity to speak along the same lines Sam is suggesting, which I
reproduce below (including a response from Alan Greenberg):
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CARLOS AFONSO: Carlos Afonso here. I am from CGI.br speaking in my
personal capacity. I find that the -- some of the recommendations are
very crucial, like Steve Crocker's.
The person from Amazon as well did a good recommendation
not to channel money to governments, et cetera. But we have to
understand that this is not the real nor the universe of funders.
We have another expertise in the universe of ICANN. And there
are other universes of funders with a lot of experience --
decades, decades of experience -- on defining goals, on defining
criteria for getting results, on multiplier effect of donations and
so on and so forth. So many things. And I think that -- of course
within ICANN, some of our organizations have some expertise in
donations. We don't have to forget that. CGI.br is one of them.
Nominet. auDA. CIRA have experiences as donors to a certain
level, no?
But out there, there are organizations with a lot of expertise
dealing with that amount of money, that scale of resources.
I think that one good idea would be to for CCWG go to them to
discuss them, criteria, ways in which they have operated, dos
and don'ts, the bad and good experiences they have had, to
bring that expertise to the work of CCWG. No? That is my
observation. Thank you.
ALAN GREENBERG: Yeah. Thank you.
As Jonathan mentioned at the earlier meeting of the working
group in Marrakech, we did have input from some of these same
people you identified just as -- you know, essentially giving us a
little bit of guidance. But the real decisions are going to be
made by the working group and we would expect the working
group to be consulting with experts at various levels.
Maybe paid, maybe volunteer. Remains to be seen.
But certainly we're not going to try to invent the concept of
funding organizations. There's lots and lots of experience out
there. Thank you.
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This is a crucial issue for NCSG's serious consideration and positioning
-- a potential opportunity for really proactive initiatives supported by
ICANN on the issues we keep defending.
fraternal regards
--c.a.
On 31/07/2016 09:17, Sam Lanfranco wrote:
> Earlier, when the sum was more modest I and others suggested that it
> should be placed in an endowment for continuous use over time, and not
> be treated as a one opportunity windfall. An endowment with a charter, a
> terms-of-reference, and an independent funding committee bound by the
> charter and terms of reference could produce good long term results.
> There was not much support for the idea at that time. Too many hands
> that want to dip into the pot now, that seems to be the challenge.
>
> Sam L, NPOC/CSIH
>
> On 2016-07-31 4:27 AM, Michael Oghia wrote:
>> /"Given how much money is at stake, that these proceeds are set to
>> increase further (with the auctions for .hotel, .inc, .mail., .llc
>> etc), and how transformative these funds could be if suitably
>> allocated, I think we should be highly involved in this process so
>> that its allocation is more community-driven."/
>>
>> +10!
>>
>> -Michael
>> __________________
>>
>> Michael J. Oghia
>> iGmena <http://igmena.org/> communications manager
>> Independent #netgov consultant & editor
>>
>> Istanbul, Turkey
>> Skype: mikeoghia
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>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Ayden Férdeline
>> <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Regardless of what the auction fee might have been, my point was
>> more that we are now sitting on a quarter of a billion dollars,
>> and I distinctly remember in Helsinki the GAC floating the
>> possibility of this money being used to fund their independent
>> secretariat. That's certainly a very understandable objective,
>> from their perspective.
>>
>> I'm curious as to what the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Drafting Team
>> is up to, and how their work differs from that of the
>> Cross-Community Working Group on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
>> Drafting Team (is it superseding the former?). When I looked at
>> the membership for the former, I see there are 18 community
>> members and 16 staff on the working group. That seems a little
>> disproportionate to me.
>>
>> Given how much money is at stake, that these proceeds are set to
>> increase further (with the auctions for .hotel, .inc, .mail., .llc
>> etc), and how transformative these funds could be if suitably
>> allocated, I think we should be highly involved in this process so
>> that its allocation is more community-driven. I'm happy to put my
>> hand up and to volunteer here. I have no doubt that there's a
>> piece of the puzzle that I'm missing (is WG membership
>> restricted?), as I will be the first to admit I am new to this
>> community, so if I am mistaken and these funds are in safe
>> hands... let me know. But if we are stretched and not as involved
>> in monitoring the progress of these working groups as we may like
>> to be, please let me know how I can help. Thanks!
>>
>> - Ayden
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 3:02 PM, James Gannon
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask] wrote:
>>
>> Power Auctions gets 4% I believe.
>>
>> From: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Ayden
>> Férdeline <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline
>> <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Friday 29 July 2016 at 06:45
>> To:
>> "<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]"
>> <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>> Subject: Re: Update request on Auction proceeds drafting team
>>
>> What are the costs you're talking about? Looking at past
>> auction proceeds
>> <https://links9.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/jAOjQGVrCV1bw6Aby?messageId=CzRzo0ZHvRMiBWE8l&rn=IyUTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI&re=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI>,
>> the auctioneer Power Auctions LLC doesn't appear to be taking
>> a cut of more than 0.25%. Which would suggest ICANN is getting
>> at least $130 million here. I might be mistaken, however!
>> Happy to be corrected if so.
>>
>> - Ayden
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:36 PM, McTim
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask] wrote:
>>
>> the auctioneer gets a chunk of that 135M, can't recall the
>> % tho, but ICANN doesn't get the full 135M.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Ayden Férdeline
>> <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> The sale of .web
>> <https://links7.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/T0OpEIvqWnraGDrCW?messageId=RlGMDDqfOu62wVLdf&rn=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI&re=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI>
>> has boosted the auction fund by another US$135
>> million. There has to be at least $250 million in
>> there now, if not more? It would be great to hear from
>> our colleagues on the New gTLD Auction Proceeds
>> Drafting Team as to where in their work plan they are
>> at. These funds could be truly transformative for
>> different stakeholder groups and projects if suitably
>> allocated…
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 5:36 PM, James Gannon
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask] wrote:
>>
>> Auction reserve fund stands at a little over 100m
>> USD as of today.
>> Klaus and Olivie are our two reps from NCSG.
>>
>> -jg
>>
>> From: Ayden Férdeline
>> <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Monday 13 June 2016 at 15:26
>> To: James Gannon
>> <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]>
>> Cc:
>> "<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]"
>> <<mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Update request on Auction proceeds
>> drafting team
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> Thanks for raising awareness of this. I am very
>> interested in the outcome of this topic as well,
>> as I understand there is at least $60m in funds
>> currently on hand from auction proceeds (a figure
>> inevitably going to grow). I need not mention how
>> transformative this could be for different
>> stakeholder groups and projects if suitably
>> allocated. Who is representing the NCSG on the
>> drafting team for this exceptional situation?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 3:07 PM, James Gannon
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Can our reps to the Auction Proceeds drafting
>> team provide us with an update on the work of
>> the group?
>> <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58728193>https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58728193
>>
>> This is critical work and I want to make sure
>> we are giving sufficient input into this process.
>> -James
>>
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> Statement of Interest
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+F%C3%A9rdeline+SOI>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> Statement of Interest
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+F%C3%A9rdeline+SOI>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> “A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where
>> it is. A route indicates how we get there.” Jon Postel
>>
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> Statement of Interest
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+F%C3%A9rdeline+SOI>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> Statement of Interest
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+F%C3%A9rdeline+SOI>
>>
>>
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