Thanks Rudi,

We see things is this light.

Lou

On 12/16/2012 10:26 PM, Rudi Rusdiah wrote:
> On 12/15/2012 11:44 PM, Baudouin SCHOMBE wrote:
>> I have a feeling that this is a trap.
>>
>> Baudouin
> dear Baudouin ... could you explain ... a trap for what and who made 
> the trap according to you  ?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-Discuss
>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] US, UK and Canada refuse to sign UN's 
>> internet
>> treaty
>>
>> Thanks Marc. Couldn't agree more.
>>
>> Amr
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
>>
>>> My problem is that no matter how benign a treaty might sound in the
>> beginning it would lead to the creation of an infrastructure to allow
>> enforcement. Once you have an international infrastructure of control 
>> who is
>> to say the rules might change? So something might start out as the 
>> society
>> for the protection of cute kittens organizing to stop child porn and 
>> end up
>> with the thought police installing chips in your brain.
>>> And you can imagine where this would go when it comes to "religiously
>> offensive" materials sent across the internet. There are many countries
>> where not believing in God caries the death penalty, as well as 
>> believing in
>> God the wrong way. I can imagine what would happen between Christians 
>> and
>> Muslims on an Internet with a central control infrastructure. There 
>> was a
>> story recently where a man who was a non-believer determined that a 
>> crying
>> statue of the Virgin Mary was caused by a leaky sewer pipe and he's 
>> being
>> prosecuted for it. Imagine what a threat it would be to realists if 
>> those
>> views could be enforced across international borders.
>>> And what about uprisings? The Arab Spring was organized online. 
>>> Would we
>> be obligated to censor the cries of the oppressed and tortured 
>> because of
>> treaty obligations of the oppressing country?
>>> The bottom line for me is that some criminality is the price we pay for
>> freedom and it's worth it. Once you put in an infrastructure to stop 
>> the bad
>> guys then that infrastructure can, and most certainly will, be used 
>> against
>> the rest of us. So I support our resistance to any treaty or domestic 
>> law to
>> centrally control the internet.
>>
>>
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