On Oct 19, 2013, at 4:15 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I agree the agenda may be quite ambitious. But I think BR is aiming high.

As was made clear yesterday during a 2 ½ hour meeting with Fadi and others, inter alia global principles & new institutional mechanisms for orphaned issues.  Not just about ICANN. Late April / early May, so as to not conflict with football.

Best

Bill

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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Milton L Mueller <[log in to unmask]> 
> Date: 18-10-2013 14:09 (GMT-03:00) 
> To: [log in to unmask],parminder <[log in to unmask]>,"Carlos A. Afonso" <[log in to unmask]> 
> Cc: Ian Peter <[log in to unmask]>,Brenden Kuerbis <[log in to unmask]>,[log in to unmask],[log in to unmask] 
> Subject: RE: [governance] RE: [bestbits] Rousseff & Chehade: Brazil will host world event on Internet governance in 2014 
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> On Thursday 17 October 2013 05:49 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
> > Hi, this will not be true at all. The main topic of the meeting will
> > probably be something like the forms and ways to achieve
> > pluriparticipative international Internet governance, including, as the
> > Presidenta said, "an international framework of civil rights for the
> > Internet".
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> > The "phone list" of the Internet is just a relatively small part of this
> > huge challenge. If the Icann people think otherwise, they will be in for
> > a surprise very soon. :)
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> Yes, Carlos, but....if the community cannot come together on agreed mechanisms and institutions for global governance of the so-called "phone list" (really bad metaphor, by the way) how is it able to take on larger problems? 
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> In other words, if we can't do ICANN right, why should anyone think we can do anything else?
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> I have always viewed ICANN as a test case of our capabilities for global governance, not as intrinsically interesting in itself.
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> Therefore, I do not agree with more ambitious agendas - or at least, the more ambitious issues might be discussed, but only if we are able to develop and apply a workable solution to the more immediate and simpler problem (ICANN).
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