Avri,

I agree that "..there is no multistakeholder model without governments,..."

A complementary strategy is that non-governmental stakeholders be present in
each and every venue where Internet Governance policy is being debated 
and/or
decided on. In particular that needs to be bolstered at the national 
level, both for
good national Internet policy and to help set the context for more 
knowledgeable
government participation in global venues like ICANN.

Sam L.

On 9/22/2016 12:01 PM, avri doria wrote:
> On 22-Sep-16 11:47, Sam Lanfranco wrote:
>> First, I agree completely that there is "/...certain naivety about the
>> treatment of states as “stakeholders”.../", a naivety that
>> underestimates the power that states might exercise with regard to
>> Internet Governance in other multilateral settings
> Well as one of those who believes there is no multistakeholder model
> without governments, I think, perhaps naively, that it is something we
> need to learn to do.  And need to do it so that the GNSO maintains its
> rightful policy predominance in this discussion.
>
> I hesitate to delve too deeply into the metaphor of the frog and the
> blender, but within that metaphor, yes, non commercials, by some
> definitions aka civil society, have to be good swimmers.
>
> avri
>
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