Hi,

The way I always thought NOTA worked in a ranking election as we have
for council, is that if someone picked NOTA instead of one candidate,
they were saying they preferred no one to that person.

If they picked NOTA instead of 2 or 3 they preferred NOTA to any of them.

After the counting, the top n win (3 in this case), except that anyone
who got fewer votes than NOTA would not.  If there were fewer people
that 3 above NOTA, then we would need another election to fill the empty
slot (s).

Our various EC were supposed to write procedures defining all of this
stuff years ago.  Unfortunately they have functioned more as membership
committee than an EC doing the chartered work of proposing procedures as
defined in the charter.

avri




On 22-Aug-16 08:23, James Gannon wrote:
> Hi Tapani,
>
> In the absence of something in the charter, can you clarify what the situation is with regards to NOTA votes if NOTA places above a natural person in the final vote what is the situation?
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> -James
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> On 22/08/2016, 10:54, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 09:44:10AM +0000, James Gannon ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
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>>> Just on process where does the NOTA candidate come from with regards
>>> to our charter, as it seems that the inclusion of a NOTA candidate
>>> is not referenced anywhere.
>> While NotA is not explicitly mentioned in the charter, it has been
>> discussed in the past and an explicit NotA choice has been felt
>> to be useful. I'm only following precedent here.
>>
>>> Also we have a serious election process flaw in that with the manner
>>> in which NOTA is given is makes it impossible for us not to elect a
>>> full slate of candidates if the number of candidates matches the
>>> number of positions, which makes this essentially an acclimation.
>> How so? You can select any number of candidates, up to three.
>>
>> Arguably NotA is redundant in that the practical effect is
>> the same as not selecting any candidates, but in the past
>> it has been considered better to have it as an explicit choice.
>>
>> -- 
>> Tapani Tarvainen



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