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Joy Liddicoat <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi - I can't answer your question on Verisign, Adam, but on the wider issue
of ICANN and public policy in relation to the root, it may be of interest
that the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights last week stressed the
importance of the human rights impact assessment whenever the Internet
policies were being deliberated: http://bit.ly/yW22hE
Joy

-----Original Message-----
From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam
Peake
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 8:01 p.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Fwd: [governance] Verisign seizes .com domain registered via
foreign Registrar on behalf of US Authorities

Anyone know how many of the take-downs have used Verisign?

And wonder how many of the new TLD applicants have selected US-based
technical providers.

During WSIS civil society frequently commented on US' unilateral control of
the root as unacceptable.  Many submissions made, can only find this now...
from 2005:

"We would like to underscore that unilateral control of the root zone file
is a public policy issue. We agree with WGIG that in future no single
government should have a pre-eminent role in global governance of the
logical infrastructure of the Internet."


Perhaps time to make it a public policy issue again?  With the AoC and other
improvements the US has been pretty good since WSIS.  These name seizures
are a nasty step back.

Adam


On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Nicolas Adam <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> There is also this article [tech dirt] that is very interesting, that 
> goes along the one that you referenced below [blog easyDNS] (and that 
> is well worth highlighting a second time for this crowd).
>
> This goes straight to the heart of ICANN's legitimacy. It goes to who 
> they cater to, who they don't oppose, to the limit of its autonomy, 
> what perception of itself it conveys through its actions and inactions,
etc.
>
> I don't pretend to have a ready diplomatic/political fix that ICANN 
> can just roll-out as a guide going forward. But it seems to me that 
> its political choices, prudent and wise as they may seem to the ones 
> in charge (or the ones preparing Dan's one-pagers), are unfortunately 
> the hallmark of a lack of identity and the signs of a sure downfall.
>
> No new type of political body like ICANN can survive without making its
bed.
> Somehow, somewhere. How it manages itself now, marvelously 
> noncommittally, only serves at alienating stakeholders that could 
> otherwise turn out to support it. And it never gets anything to show 
> for it from the ones that it punctually accommodate.
>
> I see this as a very important Board-level long term issue, that needs 
> strong leadership and attention. The users (writ large) will not 
> tolerate ICANN if it cannot provide consistency and predictability, 
> that is, an identity.
>
> Nicolas
>
>
> On 3/1/2012 8:17 AM, Adam Peake wrote:
>
> Is this new, or just more of what ICE has been doing before.  I don't 
> remember if Verisign's been used in this way before.  Clip from the 
> blog post (link below)
>
> "We all know that with some US-based Registrars (*cough* Godaddy 
> *cough*), all it takes is a badge out of a box of crackerjacks and you 
> have the authority to fax in a takedown request which has a good shot 
> at being honoured. We also know that some non-US registrars, it takes 
> a lot more "due process-iness" to get a domain taken down.
>
> But now, none of that matters, because in this case the State of 
> Maryland simply issued a warrant to .com operator Verisign, (who is 
> headquartered in California) who then duly updated the rootzone for 
> .com with two new NS records for bodog.com which now redirect the 
> domain to the takedown page."
>
>
> Adam
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: michael gurstein <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:47 PM
> Subject: [governance] Verisign seizes .com domain registered via 
> foreign Registrar on behalf of US Authorities
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> http://blog2.easydns.org/2012/02/29/verisign-seizes-com-domain-registe
> red-vi a-foreign-registrar-on-behalf-of-us-authorities/
>
>
>
>
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