Hi,
I do not believe it.
avri
On 10-Sep-16 14:03, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
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> Milton
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> Don’t you believe the Board when it promises that the accountability
> changes will happen no matter what the transition?
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> Or maybe you don’t recall that a member of the Commercial Stakeholder
> Group asked the board to confirm that “Even in the event that there
> were some political problem with the transition, it is your intention
> that we will have implemented the bylaws changes. That the
> accountability reforms are done and that we will have implemented the
> other aspects and that political impediment to the transition will not
> prevent the implementation of those bylaws reforms.” ICANN board
> member Bruce Tonkin answered on behalf of the board: “So the only
> caveat in that case…is if the NTIA wished to continue its agreement,
> we would just need to make sure that any changes were not in conflict
> with that agreement, which really doesn’t involve much in the way of
> any of the accountability work that you’ve been involved in.” ICANN
> board member Cherine Chalaby added: “So I’d like to add to what Bruce
> is saying. Basically on the accountability reforms, I think the train
> has left the station and the reasons for that is the community has
> come to an agreement. I mean, if the community did not come to an
> agreement, it would be a different thing. So I think they are good
> accountability measures and we’re committed to go forward with it,
> even if there are political positions and such. So subject to some of
> the caveats that Bruce has done, we’re all in support of that.” Video
> and initial transcript available at ICANN Public Meetings, “Joint
> Meeting of the ICANN Board & the Commercial Stakeholders | Adobe
> Connect: Full [EN],” March 8, 2016,
> https://meetings.icann.org/en/marrakech55/schedule/tue-board-csg/ac-board-csg-08mar16-en.
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> Cheers
>
> Paul
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> Paul Rosenzweig
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> *From:*NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf
> Of *Mueller, Milton L
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:45 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Transition: For US Citizens (apologies for problems
> with earlier versions)
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> “IANA Stewardship Transition” is a total loser as far as political
> rhetoric goes. The general public doesn’t know what IANA is, what the
> heck “stewardship” of it means, and “transition” is a very vague term.
> That phrase only means something to people within the process, and it
> still doesn’t encompass the accountability dimension.
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> I now always refer to it as the “ICANN reforms.” Most people know what
> ICANN is (that is what the debate is really about, after all), and the
> language makes it clear that by stopping the transition the opponents
> are also preventing the reform of ICANN’s accountability.
>
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> *From:*NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf
> Of *Michael Oghia
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:14 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* Re: Transition: For US Citizens (apologies for problems
> with earlier versions)
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> Good point Wolfgang, plus it is more succinct.
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> -Michael
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> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:06 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
> <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> I prefer the official ICANN language "IANA Stewardship
> Transition": https://www.icann.org/iana-stewardship-questions
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> Wolfgang
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: NCSG-Discuss im Auftrag von Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
> Gesendet: Sa 10.09.2016 10:12
> An: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Betreff: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Transition: For US Citizens (apologies
> for problems with earlier versions)
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> Hello Michael,
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> as a member of the ICG, but writing here in a private capacity, I
> would like to point out the dangers of using the term "transition"
> too loosely.
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> The proposal submitted by the ICG, based on input from the global
> Internet community, does not call for the transition, in other
> words the transfer of IANA, the entity itself. As you are aware,
> the original intent of the United States Administration, as
> confirmed again by the NTIA in its instructions of 2014, was and
> is the transition OF OVERSIGHT of the IANA Functions.
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> For anyone not fully versed in Internet matters, and there may be
> a handful of them in legislative bodies in various countries,
> repeating that what is at stake is the TRANSITION OF IANA amounts
> to waving a red flag, suggestive of slyly abandoning sovereign
> rights. We must make clear, once again, that it is the TRANSITION
> OF OVERSIGHT we are talking about.
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> I plead with you, and with all the colleagues who have posted a
> great number of messages on this thread, to make sure that the
> proper terminology is used, failing which those messages may be
> counter-productive.
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> Regards,
> Jean-Jacques.
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> De: "Michael Oghia" <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> À: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Envoyé: Samedi 10 Septembre 2016 09:14:05
> Objet: Re: Transition: For US Citizens (apologies for problems
> with earlier versions)
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>
> Un updated version of this letter with hyperlinks and a call to
> oppose S3034 that I just sent to Mitch McConnell as well (UofL =
> University of Louisville):
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> Dear Mr. McConnell,
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>
> Hello, my name is Michael Oghia. I am a U.S. citizen and UofL
> alumnus currently residing in Belgrade, Serbia, and I work as an
> independent consultant within the Internet governance community. I
> am a member of multiple constituencies of the Internet Corporation
> for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), including the
> Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG). As you know, the
> transition of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) to
> the global multi-stakeholder community is supposed to occur on 30
> September but is facing major opposition, often which is fueled by
> fear, misinformation, partisan politics, and a lack of understanding.
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>
> As a Kentucky citizen and member of the Internet governance
> community, I adamantly urge you to support the transition as well
> as oppose S3034 (the Protecting Internet Freedom Act). I cannot
> stress to you enough how this issue is absolutely imperative for
> the United States as well as the global Internet community. As
> National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA)
> chief Larry Stickler told Politico (based on previous testimony to
> Congress): "It's important for the future of the Internet that the
> transition not be blocked on Sept. 30 ... the delay would be
> 'giving a gift to Russia and China.' ... government had spent 'two
> years developing a plan,' and abandoning it would 'hurt the
> credibility of America in the eyes of the rest of the world.'"
>
>
>
> Mr. McConnell, please, as one of your constituents I beg you -- do
> not fall into the trap of useless, partisan politics on this
> issue. The IANA transition will increase the accountability and
> transparency of ICANN, better safeguard the domain name system
> (DNS) and wider Internet as a global resource, and greatly enhance
> trust in U.S. leadership.
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>
> I was initially hesitant to send this email but I hope that my
> plea speaks to your integrity. If anything, I ask your team to
> contact me at any time if you would like to know more about the
> transition from a non-partisan, non-political perspective, and to
> research information about the transition from a variety of
> sources (see: https://www.icann.org/iana-stewardship-questions for
> ICANN's direct response, as well as http://bit.ly/2cef7B2 and
> http://bit.ly/2cefIlT for more information). Unlike some of the
> misinformation spreading across certain political channels, I can
> vouch for this plan. Moreover, as someone working in the field, I
> work with and personally know many of the people who wrote the
> text of the transition. As such, I absolutely guarantee that the
> transition is better for U.S. interests than not doing so.
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> Thank you for your service to the people of Kentucky.
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> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Michael J. Oghia
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> Jackson, Breathitt County, Kentucky
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> iGmena communications manager
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> 2016 ISOC IGF returning ambassador
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> Independent #netgov consultant & editor
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> Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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> Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/mikeoghia
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> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeoghia
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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Michael Oghia <
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
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> Hi Ed,
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> It's my pleasure. Indeed, calling can be a bit tricky. I already
> recieved a confirmation receipt of my email, and I too am curious
> to see his stance (assuming he has one). I also tweeted his press
> secretary asking if he has a stance. So, of course, I will share.
>
>
> Again, thanks for putting this together. And actually, I apologize
> for forgetting to include a request for him to oppose S3034.
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> Best,
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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Edward Morris <
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
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> Michael,
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> Thank you so much for this and for your excellent prototype
> e-mail.. Although my experience suggests that calls do generate a
> bit greater impact, in situations like yours where you are so far
> away from home an e-mail like yours is a great idea. Thank you so
> much for doing this!
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> If you get a response, Michael, please be so kind as to share with
> us. I'm
> personally unaware of any position Senator Paul has taken on the
> issue - let's hope your message can help make it a positive one!
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> Thanks again for your great work,
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> Ed
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 9 Sep 2016, at 06:58, Michael Oghia < [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> An update: I just sent to Rand Paul, a Republican senator from
> Kentucky (the state where I am registered to vote). I have more
> faith that he and his team will respond than Mitch McConnell, a
> senior Republican senator from Kentucky who is the Senate majority
> leader. I never bother messaging McConnell about anything that is
> remotely partisan because it is, frankly, futile.
>
> Here is my letter in case someone wants to use it as a template
> and add/modify it:
>
>
>
> Dear Dr. Paul,
>
>
> Hello, my name is Michael Oghia. I am a U.S. citizen currently
> residing in Belgrade, Serbia, and I work as an independent
> consultant within the Internet governance community. I am a member
> of multiple constituencies of the Internet Corporation for
> Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), including the Non-Commercial
> Stakeholders Group (NCSG). As you know, the transition of the
> Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) to the global
> multi-stakeholder community is supposed to occur on 30 September
> but is facing major opposition, often which is fueled by fear,
> misinformation, partisan politics, and a lack of understanding.
>
>
> As a Kentucky citizen and member of the Internet governance
> community, I adamantly urge you to support the transition. As
> National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA)
> chief Larry Stickler told Politico (based on previous testimony to
> Congress): "It's important for the future of the Internet that the
> transition not be blocked on Sept. 30 ... the delay would be
> 'giving a gift to Russia and China.' ... government had spent 'two
> years developing a plan,' and abandoning it would 'hurt the
> credibility of America in the eyes of the rest of the world.'"
>
>
> Dr. Paul, please -- do not fall into the trap of useless, partisan
> politics on this issue. The IANA transition will increase the
> accountability of ICANN, better safeguard the domain name system
> (DNS) and wider Internet as a global resource, and enhance trust
> in U.S. leadership.
>
>
> I was initially hesitant to send this email but then I considered
> how you have often defended Internet rights, and hope that my plea
> speaks to your integrity. If anything, I ask your team to contact
> me at any time if you would like to know more about the transition
> from a non-partisan, non-political perspective, and to research
> information about the transition from a variety of sources..
> Unlike some of the misinformation spreading across certain
> political channels, I can vouch for this plan. As someone working
> in the field, I work with and personally know many of the people
> who wrote the text of the transition. I absolutely guarantee that
> the transition is better for U.S. interests than not doing so.
>
>
> Thank you for your service to the people of Kentucky.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Michael J. Oghia
> Jackson, Breathitt County, Kentucky
>
>
> iGmena communications manager
> 2016 ISOC IGF returning ambassador
> Independent #netgov consultant & editor
>
>
> Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/mikeoghia
> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeoghia
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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe < [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
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> Good opinion.
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> How many shall be willing to do what you are suggesting, when it
> shall favour many Americans.
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> How do you shot yourself?
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> On 9 Sep 2016 6:24 a.m., "Michael Oghia" < [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
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> Thank you for putting this information together and for this
> important call..
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> Best,
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> __________________
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> Michael J. Oghia
> iGmena communications manager
>
> 2016 ISOC IGF returning ambassador
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> Independent #netgov consultant & editor
>
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> Belgrade, Serbia
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> Skype: mikeoghia
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> Twitter | LinkedIn
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> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:19 AM, Edward Morris <
> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > wrote:
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> Hello everybody,
> My apology for my multiple efforts to get this to you. My spell
> check and font selector seem to have a mind of their own this
> morning. My sincere apologies. The message, however, remains the
> same and is important.
> Next week is a crucial time in the life of the transition. The
> administration needs to notify Congress by September 15th of it's
> intention to proceed. Although a high priority issue for a few
> Congressmen in the so called House Freedom Caucus, the transition
> is something that has really flown under the radar for most
> Senators and Representatives.
>
> I'd like to tell everyone in the NCSG that the United States
> Congress cares about what you think.. It does not. Individual
> Congresspersons, though, do care what their constituents think -
> that's where we need your help.
>
> American members of the NCSG, both institutions and individuals,
> it's time to let your elected representatives know what you think
> of the transition. The best way to do this is to call Washington
> and tell your Senator, Representative or their staff person what
> you want them to do regarding the elimination of US government
> stewardship of the internet through the IANA contract.
>
>
> Please today please call your Senator or Representative, or
> preferably both, today and tell them that:
>
>
> 1. You, or your organisation, are active members of the ICANN
> community representing noncommercial users,
>
> 2. You support the transition of the internet from the US
> government to the multi-stakeholder community (if you do),
>
> 3. (For Senators) You oppose S3034, the mis-named Protecting
> Internet Freedom Act, or
>
> 4. (For Representatives) You oppose HR 5329, the Securing
> America's Internet Domains Act of 2016,
>
>
> You can reach your Senator or Representative through the Capitol
> switchboard at 202-224-3121.
>
>
> If you do not know your representative you can obtain his or her
> identity here:
> http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/ Expat Americans should
> contact the Senator and Representative of the district where you
> currently cast your remote ballot in elections (or where you last
> resided, if you do not currently vote in the United States).
>
> In addition, please call the Secretary of the Department of
> Commerce Penny Pritzker at 202-482-2112 and:
> 1. Identify yourself, your affiliation and that you are an active
> member of the ICANN community representing noncommercial users and
> that
> 2. you support the transition (if you do) and expect the
> Department of Commerce to proceed as scheduled at the end of this
> month and not extend the current IANA contract or propose a new one.
>
>
> The time to talk is over: Americans. If you want he transition to
> occur the time to act is today. Not Monday, today. The way to act
> is by calling, not writing. The impact is much greater.
>
> Thank yu for your consideration.
>
> Best,
>
> Ed Morris
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>
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