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No, Carlos, we don't have an explicit rule. We have debated this among the leadership for some time. Some favor such limits, others oppose them. 



That is why I made a statement - I was not suggesting that we should "ban" the +1s (and neither was Niels or Carlos Afonso, I think), but I was also explaining why I was not going along with it. I think it was Stephanie Perrin who put it best - we don't want these acclamations to intimidate newer or less popular people out of nominating themselves or others. 



--MM



> -----Original Message-----

> From: Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 10:25 AM

> To: Mueller, Milton L <[log in to unmask]>

> Cc: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: +1's and support

> 

> Dear Milton.

> 

> I agree that this is a very fine procedural point, that should be managed clearly

> by the people responsible for the process, from the first mail on, so as to

> allow for others to consider participating.

> Maybe it should even become a written rule of internal netiquette.

> 

> But in the meantime, coming from a Hyperdemocratic and Hyper-freedom-of-

> expression rights country like Costa Rica (and the re-election being a

> possibility for some incumbents)  I done´t see anything wrong in feeling the

> temperature of the room early on as a way to recognise how hard some of

> them have worked in the past. We might have chosen the wrong place to

> make this type of comments, but space should be available for making them

> in the list anyhow. Maybe just under a different heading, like “I don´t like the

> re-election of incumbents” for example.

> 

> Now, do we have an explicit rule as suggested by Niels and you? How and

> where do we express our support for that rule? Should we draw a redline and

> asked for a renewed call for the election process with the new rule and forget

> the past? Lets be practical and move forward ASAP.

> 

> Best

> 

> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez

> +506 8837 7176

> Skype: carlos.raulg

> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)

> On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:11, Mueller, Milton L wrote:

> 

> > I second Niels's views. I have refrained from expressing any opinion

> > about the nominations until the nominations are closed and we are

> > discussing candidate statements. I have always done so.

> >

> > --MM

> >

> >> -----Original Message-----

> >> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf

> >> Of Niels ten Oever

> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:30 AM

> >> To: [log in to unmask]

> >> Subject: +1's and support

> >>

> >> Dear all,

> >>

> >> Even though I think the regular display of +1's is a signal of mutual

> >> support and camaraderie. I have the feeling that sometimes it is

> >> drowning out other discussions about content on the list.

> >>

> >> May I also remind people that the voting happens later, so the

> >> candidates need your support is even more then.

> >>

> >> I'm greatly looking forward to the statements of the candidates.

> >>

> >> All the best,

> >>

> >> Niels

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> --

> >> Niels ten Oever

> >> Head of Digital

> >>

> >> Article 19

> >> www.article19.org

> >>

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